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	<title>Comments on: Taking a Stand on Prop 8: Opposing It Is Just Plain Right</title>
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		<title>By: Dr. Jim Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Jim Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 04:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a pastor reading your statement !  You are a true believer and i don&#039;t think anyone of us could have said it better..
Peace be with you always !

Dr. Jim Hamilton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a pastor reading your statement !  You are a true believer and i don&#8217;t think anyone of us could have said it better..<br />
Peace be with you always !</p>
<p>Dr. Jim Hamilton</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Price</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dick Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tandra,

You are entitled to your religious beliefs.

You are not entitled to impose those beliefs on the rest of us.

Marriage is a civil procedure, not a religious one. Gays and lesbians are entitled to equal protection under the law. They should not have to live as second-class citizens, just because your interpretation of what you think your God says. This is not Iran and you are not the Ayatollah.

And this talk I hear of loving the sinner but hating the sin is hypocritical, and quite deadly, nonsense.

-- Dick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tandra,</p>
<p>You are entitled to your religious beliefs.</p>
<p>You are not entitled to impose those beliefs on the rest of us.</p>
<p>Marriage is a civil procedure, not a religious one. Gays and lesbians are entitled to equal protection under the law. They should not have to live as second-class citizens, just because your interpretation of what you think your God says. This is not Iran and you are not the Ayatollah.</p>
<p>And this talk I hear of loving the sinner but hating the sin is hypocritical, and quite deadly, nonsense.</p>
<p>&#8211; Dick</p>
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		<title>By: Tandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have so many arguments about Prop. 8 and I can see what some say is taking away there rights, but that is not true. I do not know how anyone who says they love God and are a Christian who can condone such behavior that God calls an abomination. This world is coming to an end and we are living in our last days when men loving men and women loving women is considered okay within the body of Christ. I do not hate anyone so gays can stop using that as a reason why I personally disagree with them marrying. I love God and the word of God and I do not care who does not agree with me, God does agree and I&#039;d rather please God than man. In no way should anyone professing Christ condone sin period and it is a disgrace for pastors and so-called religious leaders to stand against God&#039;s word and stand on the side of sin. God says to lean not to your own understanding but acknowledge Him in all your ways, whether you agree or not. Many of you are being tested by God concerning this matter and have failed. How can you use the umbrella of civil rights to condone sin that God is against, it is a shame. I feel if gays/lesbians want rights as far as visitation in hospitals and social security and whatever else they are fighting for, get power of attorney or a living trust. I will never vote for anyone to change the sacredness of God ordained marriage for something God calls an abomination. For those Christians who haven&#039;t repented yet and have voted for same sex marriage, what will you say to God when he asked you, why did you condone an abomination? What will you say? I think everyone should have equal rights. When have the world ever had the same privileges of church or followers of Christ? These people most of them talk so much hate against the bible, against God&#039;s people and against the Church because we do not agree with their sinful lifestyle or any sin for that fact. I love the people but hate the sin and will continue to speak out against sin of any kind and I definitely will not join in with the devil to go against God&#039;s word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have so many arguments about Prop. 8 and I can see what some say is taking away there rights, but that is not true. I do not know how anyone who says they love God and are a Christian who can condone such behavior that God calls an abomination. This world is coming to an end and we are living in our last days when men loving men and women loving women is considered okay within the body of Christ. I do not hate anyone so gays can stop using that as a reason why I personally disagree with them marrying. I love God and the word of God and I do not care who does not agree with me, God does agree and I&#8217;d rather please God than man. In no way should anyone professing Christ condone sin period and it is a disgrace for pastors and so-called religious leaders to stand against God&#8217;s word and stand on the side of sin. God says to lean not to your own understanding but acknowledge Him in all your ways, whether you agree or not. Many of you are being tested by God concerning this matter and have failed. How can you use the umbrella of civil rights to condone sin that God is against, it is a shame. I feel if gays/lesbians want rights as far as visitation in hospitals and social security and whatever else they are fighting for, get power of attorney or a living trust. I will never vote for anyone to change the sacredness of God ordained marriage for something God calls an abomination. For those Christians who haven&#8217;t repented yet and have voted for same sex marriage, what will you say to God when he asked you, why did you condone an abomination? What will you say? I think everyone should have equal rights. When have the world ever had the same privileges of church or followers of Christ? These people most of them talk so much hate against the bible, against God&#8217;s people and against the Church because we do not agree with their sinful lifestyle or any sin for that fact. I love the people but hate the sin and will continue to speak out against sin of any kind and I definitely will not join in with the devil to go against God&#8217;s word.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen,

Thank you for making this excellent point that is all too frequently forgotten.

Sharon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen,</p>
<p>Thank you for making this excellent point that is all too frequently forgotten.</p>
<p>Sharon</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>prop 8 has nothing to do with schools, watch the ad featuring the california superintendent of schools debunking that lie.  and you have every right to believe marriage is between a man and a woman, but in this country we don&#039;t use the constitution to take away rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>prop 8 has nothing to do with schools, watch the ad featuring the california superintendent of schools debunking that lie.  and you have every right to believe marriage is between a man and a woman, but in this country we don&#8217;t use the constitution to take away rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for your opposition to Prop 8 and this very eloquent article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for your opposition to Prop 8 and this very eloquent article.</p>
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		<title>By: mike chattom</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike chattom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, I am voting yes on prop 8. it is real clear to me that when we marriage is made it is between Man and Woman. I hope you can make a clear distinction between a Man....so many are faking people out there. But really what can be the difference between Man and woman. that is there is a Womb within the woman not the man. That is there because someone or a higher being has given her the ability to reproduce. Man to Man can&#039;t do that. Don&#039;t care how long or how deep or how many surgeries or implants or oversea trips it take to make Stevie look like Eva.... PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT.  MY POSITION IS REAL. HOMOSEXUALITY IN THE SCHOOL PLACE IS REALLY GOING TO THE NEXT LEVEL.....REALLY HAPPENS IN THE HIGHER EDUCATION LEVEL LIKE COLLEGE. BUT THEN IT IS REALLY THE INDIVIDUALS CHOICE. I AM SAYING MY POSITION IS CLEAR...MAN TO MAN CAN&#039;T PRODUCE....MAN TO WOMAN CAN GIVE YOU JUICE!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, I am voting yes on prop 8. it is real clear to me that when we marriage is made it is between Man and Woman. I hope you can make a clear distinction between a Man&#8230;.so many are faking people out there. But really what can be the difference between Man and woman. that is there is a Womb within the woman not the man. That is there because someone or a higher being has given her the ability to reproduce. Man to Man can&#8217;t do that. Don&#8217;t care how long or how deep or how many surgeries or implants or oversea trips it take to make Stevie look like Eva&#8230;. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT.  MY POSITION IS REAL. HOMOSEXUALITY IN THE SCHOOL PLACE IS REALLY GOING TO THE NEXT LEVEL&#8230;..REALLY HAPPENS IN THE HIGHER EDUCATION LEVEL LIKE COLLEGE. BUT THEN IT IS REALLY THE INDIVIDUALS CHOICE. I AM SAYING MY POSITION IS CLEAR&#8230;MAN TO MAN CAN&#8217;T PRODUCE&#8230;.MAN TO WOMAN CAN GIVE YOU JUICE!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Wingard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Wingard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it morally reprehensible that anyone, and most especially churches at which I don&#039;t worship, would ask us to amend our state constitution to take away a right. 
As far as the state is concerned, marriage is a civil contract binding the contracting parties to certain mutual commitments and the state to recognition of the union. When the state Supreme Court found that the right to marry was not limited to heterosexual couples, that decision affected only the civil contract, not the right of any church to grant or deny what it deems a sacrament. So no one&#039;s marriage or faith is endangered by anyone else&#039;s right to marry. Vote NO on 8.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it morally reprehensible that anyone, and most especially churches at which I don&#8217;t worship, would ask us to amend our state constitution to take away a right.<br />
As far as the state is concerned, marriage is a civil contract binding the contracting parties to certain mutual commitments and the state to recognition of the union. When the state Supreme Court found that the right to marry was not limited to heterosexual couples, that decision affected only the civil contract, not the right of any church to grant or deny what it deems a sacrament. So no one&#8217;s marriage or faith is endangered by anyone else&#8217;s right to marry. Vote NO on 8.</p>
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		<title>By: Tandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know hwere you stand on Porp. 8 and I do not know where this we came from, but  am for Prop 8. I believe in tradtional marriage between a man and a woman. I further do not believe that anyone has the right to teach my child in school about same sex marriage. It is a moral iss and biblical fact and I believe that anyone who believes in the bible should vote YES ON PROP 8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know hwere you stand on Porp. 8 and I do not know where this we came from, but  am for Prop 8. I believe in tradtional marriage between a man and a woman. I further do not believe that anyone has the right to teach my child in school about same sex marriage. It is a moral iss and biblical fact and I believe that anyone who believes in the bible should vote YES ON PROP 8</p>
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		<title>By: Lnda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lnda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel that marriage should be between a man and a woman, I think that the word marriage is sacred and it is approved by God. I also feel that if a person or persons chose to live with a same sex partner; they should have that right as in a heterosexual relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that marriage should be between a man and a woman, I think that the word marriage is sacred and it is approved by God. I also feel that if a person or persons chose to live with a same sex partner; they should have that right as in a heterosexual relationship.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if anyone STILL hasn&#039;t decided, after all this passion, eloquence, and logic....
Come see the documentary &quot;Preacher&#039;s Sons&quot; - free showing at Neighborhood Church, Monday evening Nov. 3, 7 p.m. - 301 N. Orange Grove --
It&#039;s the story of a minister, formerly with Neighborhood Church, who is raising (with his gay partner) a family of five adopted sons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if anyone STILL hasn&#8217;t decided, after all this passion, eloquence, and logic&#8230;.<br />
Come see the documentary &#8220;Preacher&#8217;s Sons&#8221; &#8211; free showing at Neighborhood Church, Monday evening Nov. 3, 7 p.m. &#8211; 301 N. Orange Grove &#8211;<br />
It&#8217;s the story of a minister, formerly with Neighborhood Church, who is raising (with his gay partner) a family of five adopted sons.</p>
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