Zimmerman Verdict Does Not Alter Truth

trayvon deadIt was the picture that convinced me.

I believe in our legal system and its processes.  I understand the concept that a defendant is innocent until proven guilty.  I understand that what trials do is very different from what public opinion does, and from what reality is.  Trials determine legal guilt or innocence.  They do not determine reality.

When Emmett Till was murdered, in 1955, his killers were identified, tried and acquitted.  Then they gave an interview to Look magazine, bragging about the murder, knowing that our system protected them against double jeopardy, so they could not be tried again for a murder they were proud of.

Now that he’s been acquitted, George Zimmerman can also go national, wallowing in the adulation of racists who think that stalking and shooting an unarmed child is good sport, if the child is black.  George has a history of sucking up to authority; making 911 calls to report “dangerous black youths;” longing for some role as an important person.

Because he is too clearly psychologically unfit, he has been rejected when applying for police jobs.  He has been fired from minimum wage, no-training-needed private security jobs, because of his zeal for excessive violence.  But since the trial, without even a junior college degree, he put out the word that he wants to go to law school so he can be an important defender of future shooters who heroically cut down potential black criminals.

His past failures will stand as badges of honor for some people.  In an age of media excess, George will be able to make a handsome living pandering to the basest among us.  The verdict was announced in the evening of July 13.  By July 14, George’s brother, who had been doing media work for George throughout the trial, was on the national talk shows, flogging George as a vigilante hero, and reminding people that George needs to make money.

The meeting invitations and speech requests will start rolling in.  George has demanded the return of his gun, so that he can wave it in front of Tea Bagger crowds and let people touch the relic that saved Florida from one more young black man.  The ‘honoraria’ will flow into his pocket (and just as quickly out, to pay his attorneys and others who profited by portraying him as a great white hope).  At least until audiences hear him speak, listen to his answers to questions, and realize what the police who dealt with him in years past already know – losers don’t make good heroes.

When Emmett Till was tortured, mutilated and murdered, his mother insisted on an open casket funeral service, and the press published the picture, to show the world the truth about “southern justice” and what concern racists really have for equal treatment of those they want to keep separate.

What the picture of Emmett Till showed was a child whose bones had been broken.  Who had one eye gouged out while he was alive.  Who had barbed wire wrapped around his neck.  And who had been shot in the head by a 45 caliber pistol.  That picture was “newsworthy” because it showed the utter inhumanity of racist murderers, acting to uphold ‘white privilege’.

emmett tillA picture of Trayvon Martin, as he lay dead in the Florida grass, was offered in evidence at the trial.  All media except NBC refused to broadcast the picture.  NBC only aired it by mistake, and then apologized.

What the picture of Trayvon Martin shows was a child who was shot in the chest, while clutching a paper bag in his left hand.  What the picture shows is that Trayvon Martin was clutching a paper bag.  Clutching it as he allegedly grasped George’s head.  Clutching it as he allegedly grappled for George’s gun.  Trayvon Martin left DNA traces on the paper bag, but not on George’s head and not on George’s gun.  The picture was not ‘newsworthy’ because it showed the utter dishonesty of George’s constantly mutating lies.

George refused to testify, as was his right.  So there was no evidence to support his claims that Trayvon Martin attacked him.  No evidence that Trayvon Martin grasped his head and slammed it into the ground.  There was no evidence that Trayvon Martin grappled for George’s gun.  Those were arguments by George’s attorneys – arguments without evidence.

In 1955, the Emmett Till picture helped convince our nation that we had to change the way society saw and treated non-white people.  Perhaps the Trayvon Martin picture will help people better see the distinction between trials and truth.  “The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth” is never something for which any trial attorney strives.  Prosecutors are promoted on their percentage of convictions, with no penalty ever for convictions later found to be tainted by coerced confessions or disproven by science.  Civil attorneys prosper as much on their ability to exclude evidence as in getting evidence admitted.

The picture makes the confrontation between Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman clear – George followed Trayvon Martin, stalked him, and shot him before Trayvon Martin even had a chance to drop his skittles and Arizona Tea to raise his hands in defense.

The picture makes the jury deliberations clear – it didn’t matter to six white women that all the scientific evidence disproved George’s lies.  What mattered was that a white or even half Hispanic man should not be held to account for killing a black child.  The jury didn’t care that there was no evidence to support George’s attorneys’ excuses, or that DNA evidence disproved George’s lies, or that the picture disproved George’s character assassination of the child, after he had assassinated the child’s body.

The post-trial blogosphere confirms the picture.  Any number of white writers have reminded us that a not guilty verdict means that George Zimmerman is innocent.  Not one of those has extended that logic to the not guilty verdicts won by O.J. Simpson or Michael Jackson.   When a black man is acquitted, it is a miscarriage of justice, often by a “corrupt” or “biased” jury.  When George Zimmerman was acquitted, it is ‘justice’ for the poor, oppressed white race.

We have not yet progressed enough for most people to be willing to apply the presumption of innocence equally to all defendants.  Few people who proclaim George’s innocence want to believe that O.J. Simpson or Michael Jackson or Casey Anthony are innocent of the crimes for which they were acquitted.  We distinguish in our minds the concept of acquitted at trial from the concept of factual innocence.

Legal innocence is not factual innocence.  Our criminal trial system is intended to test whether prosecutors have presented sufficient evidence to warrant a conviction.  This is often a matter of faith, not of science.  Too often in our history, we have seen cases in which prosecutors manufactured incriminating evidence, or hid exculpatory evidence.  Our history includes too many cases of judges, prosecutors and jurors building and deciding cases on their personal prejudices or financial interests, rather than on available facts.

Tom HallAnd our system has a history of defendants using witness intimidation, destroyed or concealed evidence and, as in George Zimmerman’s case, emotional and intentionally dishonest legal arguments without any evidentiary support, to evade conviction.  But imperfection is not complete failure.  The triumph of racism in one place is no reason to abandon attempts to end racism in all places.

It was the picture that convinced me.  I know that George is legally innocent.  I also know that he stalked an unarmed boy who was carrying junk food in a bag, and that he shot that boy before the boy could even drop the bag.  I know that the vote of six white women in Florida will never alter that truth.

Tom Hall

Monday, 15 July 2013

Published by the LA Progressive on July 15, 2013
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About Tom Hall

Tom Hall is a family lawyer in West Los Angeles. He is from Boston, and was raised in Friends Meeting at Cambridge (Quakers) to think that religion was a progressive force. During the Vietnam War, he organized draft counseling centers and worked with groups training people in techniques for disciplined nonviolent demonstrating. After the war, he became just another yuppie working to make a comfortable life. The Bush administration shocked him back into social concerns. Now he’s working to see that the Obama administration lives up to its progressive promises. Tom can be reached at ProgBlog@aol.com

Comments

  1. Smooth Connect says:

    Contact me at …libra27891@yahoo.com… I need to ask you something Mr. Tom Hall

  2. “Now that he’s been aquitted, George Zimmerman can also go national, …”
    “The meeting invitations and speech requests will start rolling in”
    “George has demanded the return of his gun, so that he can start waving it in front of Tea Bagger crowds”
    “The ‘honoraria’ will flow into his pocket”

    Gee – has George “gone national”? Has he accepted any invitations and gone to meetings or given speeches? Has he waved his gun in front of ‘Tea Bagger crowds’? Has he accepted any honoraria? No? No. How about that. Looks like you don’t know what you’re talking about. At all.

    The only thing that George Zimmerman has done to get national attention is to get picked up for speeding (which millions of people do every day) and help rescue some people trapped in an overturned car. I don’t blame GZ for demanding his gun back. Given that the new Black Panther party has put out a bounty on his head and people like you are whipping up false racism claims about him I wouldn’t leave my house unarmed if I were him.

  3. Craig Hanrahan says:

    Ma’am……so what? What does that have to do with a HISPANIC MAN killing a BLACK BOY? Half of the jury was also not white. Im glad DNA testing has let some innocent people go but what in the hell does that have to do with this case? And exhonerations do not spotlight racial bias in our judicial system as much as arrests do.

    “and Martin who was unarmed and not engaged in any criminal behavior”…..

    Assault is CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR. It was Trayvon who assaulted Zimmerman.

    If Trayvon was innocent and knew he was being followed, why didn’t he just go to the door of the first house he saw, knock on it, and ask them to call the police and wait….? Why turn around and assault a man who was following him?

    Perhaps your people should get better informed on what is….and what is not criminal behavior. That would probably solve most of your issues.

    And use YOUR OWN logic….quit cut and pasting other peoples articles.

  4. Tom HALL
    THANKS FOR THE TRUTH.

  5. MartinIsNOTonTrial says:

    “What the picture of Trayvon Martin shows was a child who was shot in the chest, while clutching a paper bag in his left hand.”… how could he have beaten Zimmerman while holding a paper bag??? Was the Jury informed that Martin was holding a paper bag when he was shot???

  6. MartinIsNOTonTrial says:

    “What the picture of Trayvon Martin shows was a child who was shot in the chest, while clutching a paper bag in his left hand.”… how could he have beaten Zimmerman while holding a paper bag??? Was the Jury informed that Martin was holding a paper bag when he was shot???

  7. georgina nix says:

    God got Zimmermen god don’t let you get away with murder

  8. neephee says:

    If you want to talk about leaving out information, why aren’t people talking about the fact that the contents he was carrying was for a recreational drug called “purple drank”, not to mention his blood stream contained more then one presence of heavy duty drugs, (excluding marijuana) one of which is known to be cause violent outbursts. Trayvon was everything that was wrong with the black community, yet people are making him out to be a hero!???

  9. I just can’t understand why every one can’t see what really happen its right in front of them Zimmerman had contusion to the back of his head a lot of them where Trayvon jumped him from the back like a coward,& when Zimmerman fell to the ground Trayvon continued to punch & kick him to the head & face then to the body as Zimmerman screamed Help!!! every one heard the 911 phone call,i don’t know about other people but when you get hit from the back in the head then get knocked to the ground while being kicked & punched to the back of your head then to the body,your survival gear kicks in or flight or fight some say it was obvious that Zimmerman wanted the beating to end & feared for his life,i am sure he did not know it was a boy beating him for all he knew it was a gang member trying to kill him so when he seen no on was going to help he did the only thing he felt at the time was right & shot the boy {one time} he did not empty the gun on him he shot him one time & i don’t think he had in mind to kill him just stop him,from beating him when he was down,i am surprised he only shot once if it had been me or you i can’t say i would have stopped at one shot,in the instance thinking that person is trying to kill you you may have empty the gun,every one knows this but still want to make a big deal out of it yea he made a bad decision but at that time he had been hit in the back of his head & face & body i am sure he was not in his right mind….

  10. shut up all of you says:

    what about when black kids kill black kids

  11. It was the picture that convinced me too. I see no bullet hole so I guess he wasn’t shot uh? You can doctor your photo’s all you want to prove your bias opinion’s but Id rather you keep them to yourself. But like NBC, Zimmerman was guilty before any evidence was produced. Nice job too!!!

  12. Christopher C says:

    Trials do NOT determine guilt or innocence!!!!!!!!They determine if guilt can be proven!!!WTF is this illiterate Blue turles talking about.Are you retarded?One black man,who is half white by the way,has been elected president in 220 years.Every other President was a white man you rube.

    • Swag_4_Life says:

      Sounds like lynch mob mentality to me.

      (Do extra exclamation points make your argument LOUDER or more logical…what effect are you shooting for there? )

      As a society we have laws. We have a system of due process which predates even the signing of the Magna Carta 800 years ago and, for the most part, it has served us well. I agree that trials do not determine innocence. But they do determine guilt and punishment. We presume innocence until substantial proof otherwise is presented to a jury. This basic and integral system of justice is all that separates us from savages. It is is what allows us to advance as a culture. It is what makes us human.

  13. ummmm Well thats actually a glove in that picture but I’ll let you race baiters believe what you want too. If you want the truth search for other (clearer) versions of the same photo.

  14. This photo and the commentary are confusing. The reports say that Martin was face down in the grass when the police arrived and then CPR was done for several minutes by the police and the paramedics. Are you saying that those reports are incorrect?

  15. Swag_4_Life says:

    George Zimerman jut rescued a family who ws trapped in an overurned truck. This is not a troll! This shit really happened!

    That’s game, Libbies!!! LOL. You can’t flim flam the Zim Zam! All that’s missing from his photo is a cape and a mustache. El Jorge cabalga de nuevo!

    By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC) and ALEXIS SHAW (@ashaw109)

    July 22, 2013

    George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue a family who was trapped in an overturned vehicle, police said today.

    Zimmerman was one of two men who came to the aid of a family of four — two parents and two children — trapped inside a blue Ford Explorer SUV that had rolled over after traveling off the highway in Sanford, Fla. at approximately 5:45 p.m. Thursday, the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office said in a statement.

    The crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route Route 46, police said. The crash site is less than a mile from where Zimmerman shot Martin.

    By the time police arrived, two people – including Zimmerman – had already helped the family get out of the overturned car, the sheriff’s office said. No one was reported to be injured.

    • Helen Wheels says:

      How do you beat on someone with a bag of candy in your hand?

      • Swag_4_Life says:

        What evidence do you have that he had candy in his hand? Please, I want to see it…I *NEED* to see that photo or testimony.

    • gnocchi says:

      That’s game, Libbies!!! LOL. You can’t flim flam the Zim Zam! All that’s missing from his photo is a cape and a mustache. El Jorge cabalga de nuevo!

      No, this is not a troll at all. Not in the least.

  16. Michael Arkk says:

    Dear Tom.

    Your views are relevant pertinent and honest. I am very worried because I know Nature has an unstoppable way to institute Justice and create peace. One has no idea what method she will chose to use to correct the situation.

    It is so disappointing and sad to know we are seeking to colonise Space yet we cant find the wisdom to share this planet together in a honest fair way.

    We live in terror and fear for each other because we have fallen victims of an inferior concept so alien to advancement it makes us all look like fools. After all we have achieved we still kill and disrespect each other because of the colour of one’s skin.
    We must all endeavour to avoid living like poor Mr. Zimmerman. We have no reason to Cannibals.

  17. You are all completely missing the point that the police told Zimmerman to leave the area and they would handle it. Instead he stalked Martin. No matter what happened after that happened because Zimmerman didn’t do as he was told. If he had, he and Martin would never been in close enough proximity for either of them to hit the other.

  18. You are all completely missing the point that the police told Zimmerman to leave the area and they would handle it. Instead he stalked Martin. No matter what happened after that happened because Zimmerman didn’t do as he was told. If he had, he and Martin would never been in close enough proximity for either of them to hit the other.

    • Craig Hanrahan says:

      a 911 dispatcher is hardly police…she was a civilian. and her words were “we don’t need you to do that”….hardly a directive command such as “return to your car now”.
      Nobody is missing the point, there is no point here.

  19. Swag_4_Life says:

    FYI. Dr. Martin Luther King was an avid gun collector. Not that it ended up doing much good, but he firmly supported the second amendment..

    “The More You Know…. (whoooosh)”.

  20. one look at the name of this site is proof enough that it’s total BS

  21. what a slap in the face to the memory of Emmit Till. Tray Tary was no Emmitt Till and defiintely no Medgar Evars as he has also been compared to.

  22. Max Gold says:

    The most telling part of the photo of a dead Trayvon martin, is that he isn’t anywhere near the deadly concrete footpath that he was supposedly using to assault poor little paranoid georgie with. George claims after having his head smashed into the concrete he reached for his gun and then shot Trayvon and then crawled out from under him. So if this is the case, why is it nowhere near the concrete footpath?

  23. Steve Johnson says:

    He may have been found “not guilty”, but he will never be “innocent” of murdering that young man!!

    • only because “Innocent” was not an option on the jury verdict form.

      • Steve Johnson says:

        spin it any way you want, he killed the kid, nothing can change that fact. Innocent of killing a person he will never be

        • Swag_4_Life says:

          Somehow I don’t think he’s losing much sleep over your opinion or anyone else’s. You could see a weight being lifted from him as they found him innocent of all charges. Thank God.. He did the right thing — he did the ONLY thing — and he went home while the assailant went to the morgue.

  24. get it straight says:

    pullease that “kid” was in trouble and kicked out of school, TEENS like Trayvon (black teens) KILLED INNOCENT 12 year old Autumn Pasquale, of Clayton, MN and stuffed her in a trash can FOR her BICYCLE and a bag of skittles!! wheres the MARCH for Autumn?? she was DEFINITELY an innocent not questionable like Trayvon!! LOL Blacks run rant and cry for THEIR race while a buncha wimpy whites stick up for the blacks TOO!! lol but yeah I dont see anyone BLACK writing blogs like this For Autumn, or the babyshot in the face,, what about Obama?? could Obama have been a 12 year old white girl murdered for her bike by blacks?? Coloreds are hypocritical reverse racists.
    So yeah a 17 year old almost a ADULT couldn’t possibly attack another man and try to take his gun they only take bicycles.. he musta been a victim and not an assailant because hes dead, uh duh if it were a murder there would probably would have been more than one shot fired. Black teens are in gangs and kill all the time, and the total of black gang members definitely out number white gang members, so some single teen MUST be an innocent, WHERE ARE THE BLACK MARCHES FOR BLACKS KILLING BLACKS in L.A. calif?? buncha hypocritical kiss butts

  25. get it straight says:

    pullease that “kid” was in trouble and kicked out of school, TEENS like Trayvon (black teens) KILLED INNOCENT 12 year old Autumn Pasquale, of Clayton, MN and stuffed her in a trash can FOR her BICYCLE and a bag of skittles!! wheres the MARCH for Autumn?? she was DEFINITELY an innocent not questionable like Trayvon!! LOL Blacks run rant and cry for THEIR race while a buncha wimpy whites stick up for the blacks TOO!! lol but yeah I dont see anyone BLACK writing blogs like this For Autumn, or the babyshot in the face,, what about Obama?? could Obama have been a 12 year old white girl murdered for her bike by blacks?? Coloreds are hypocritical reverse racists.
    So yeah a 17 year old almost a ADULT couldn’t possibly attack another man and try to take his gun they only take bicycles.. he musta been a victim and not an assailant because hes dead, uh duh if it were a murder there would probably would have been more than one shot fired. Black teens are in gangs and kill all the time, and the total of black gang members definitely out number white gang members, so some single teen MUST be an innocent, WHERE ARE THE BLACK MARCHES FOR BLACKS KILLING BLACKS in L.A. calif?? buncha hypocritical kiss butts

  26. get it straight says:

    what bag? the one lying on the ground not being held, yeah everyone has opinions and trayvon is in no way comparable to emmit situation, Why would you anger people by comparing trayvon to a tortured person. Trayvon tried to knock zimmerman, there are real factual wounds documented on zimmerman b4 he could self inflict. even though you a wrong. I can beat your head to the ground while clutching a bag, seriously? he obviously wasnt able to do a very good job if zimmerman was able to draw pistol. Thick skulls like you are rabble rousers who further divide races over situations that are not racially motivated, but lets see the DEFENSE witness testified TRAYVON called zimmerman a crazy ass CRACKER, reverse RACIST trayvon,, hmm who was biased against whom? get your facts straight before you publish blogs that promote fiction and opinions based in fantasy moron

    • Swag_4_Life says:

      Trying to get a liberal not to yell “racist” is like getting Lynard Skynrd not to play “Freebird.”

    • Swag_4_Life says:

      Trying to get a liberal not to yell “racist” is like getting Lynard Skynrd not to play “Freebird.”

    • Swag_4_Life says:

      Trying to get a liberal not to yell “racist” is like getting Lynard Skynrd not to play “Freebird.”

  27. Swag_4_Life says:

    Well said. White liberals view themselves as evolved beings and don’t realize that often they’re making a fool of themselves when they proffer up teary-eyed apologies on behalf of all white people, as if they spoke for the other 99% who have absolutely noting to apologize for. In the next twenty years, white liberals will be a minority in the democratic party and they are going to be stunned when Blacks and Latinos re-institute prayer in schools and declare open season on homosexuals while mandating that a fetus is sacred. They have no clue what Black and Latino culture is really about. They’ll claim that white conservatives somehow poisoned the minds of the “minorities” and shake their heads in disbelief as their notions that only white people can be racist are enveloped in a mighty black and brown wave. And some day you’l” overhear them politely, yet firmly, stating that “I used to be a liberal, but it was a different time back then.”

  28. JnK8288 says:

    It is sad people cannot admit that Zimmerman caused this issue by leaving his car, he called the police and should have left it at that. I don’t believe Zimmerman and he proved that he would lie to save his own butt, when he did so about the funds that he had received from supports…

  29. MaryAnne Tillman says:

    I am an old white woman. I just want to know? Who demonized this child? Who made him into a thug? He was a victim. Didn’t the Sanford Police see the timed 7-11 receipt and know this was just a kid walking home. He was unarmed. They should have arrested Zimmerman that night. But, then the blame the victim started. Who is responsible? Did it start with Zimmerman.His attorneys, Zimmerman’s brother? Trayvon was a regular teanager. I’ve raised two. I’ve been one. God knows what my kids had on their phones or facebooks. They can be tough years. But Trayvon had loving, caring parents. He had a Church and supportive extended family. He had no arrests. So, who did this to him? The right wing bloggers, the Sanford Police? This is the racism at it’s ugliest! So, Zimmerman is off the hook and his attorneys will be rich. But, whoever did this will be held accountable when it really matters. And there will be no all white jury.

    • funny no one ever asks Ms Fulton to speak to the fact that she kicked tray tray out of her “loving home” cuz she couldn’t handle her little angel.

      • And why wouldn’t a Virginia police department hire GZ? Bad credit? Who lied about their finances and said they were destitute? Hmmm… Stop painting one ugly picture if you aren’t willing to acknowledge the other’s transgressions.

        • Swag_4_Life says:

          Because Zimmerman wasn’t portrayed as a 12 year oil, light-skinned angelic child since the onset of public attention. Martin’s family trademarked his name and purposely withheld any image that would portray him in any other light. The Orlando Sentinel had to look high and low from friends and social media sources to find any photo which remotely resembled him, while Zimmerman was portrayed as a hulking brute and in an orange jumpsuit as NBC edited 911 tapes to fit the narrative crafted by the Martin family and handed to the media on a silver platter. What is wrong with having bad credit? We’re in the middle of a global economic meltdown. At least he had a job, which is more than we can say for St Skittles. How’d he get the 40 bucs he had in his pocket, and if it was from his parents what does that say about rewarding his bad behavior which got him sent to his father’s house in the first place? Trayvon never worked a day in is life, preferring to sling dope instead.

        • one has nothing to do with the other…But you sayin’ George lied to them and said he had bad credit so they disqualified him? wow, bad deal…

  30. There is no evidence that he was attacked beyond the sound of someone, whom the defense never proved was him (one wonders why not) screaming.

  31. T Burke says:

    The original investigators believed that George Zimmerman could not be charged under Florida’s existing laws

    The chief of police agreed. (And he got fired)

    The local prosecutor believed the same thing.

    The case was given to state prosecutors. They did not give the case to a Grand Jury that was already empaneled. (Were they afraid the jury would not prefer charges?)

    The state charged him with second degree murder or felony manslaughter.

    The state was not able to prove either charge.

    The death of Trevon Martin was a heartbreaking tragedy. No parent should have to endure the death of a child.

    This tragedy was the culmination of many poor choices starting with George Zimmerman getting out of his car.

    Tom Burke

  32. Swag_4_Life says:

    It’s an EMT glove next to his hand. The photo that Tom’s theory is based upon is actually a screenshot from a television broadcast. There are MUCH higher resolution photos out there, you just have to seek them.out.

  33. kennedy says:

    Anybody ever think that Trayvon was walking peacefully and stalked. Trayvon ran and was chased down by a gun weilding psycho. Was it not logical for an individual at any age would consider his life in danger? Ever register that Trayvon acted in self defense? Those grass stains don’t support the intensity of the fight that George claims maybe there was a tussle who knows but please explain the blood splatter discrepancies? I’ve had worst grass strains from playing as a child even holes n my pants at the knees were common. Why wasn’t Georges blood found on Trayvon? Why did Zimmerman lie and say he was the one screaming for help? How is Trayvon the aggressor if he ran away? Ever heard of cause and effect? How do you know the person stalking and following you is not out to harm you? Ask all the living rape, kidnapp, and attempted murder victims that was oblivious to the fact that crazy people are out there lurking. Fight or flight, running didn’t work so what’s the other option?

  34. Be Honest says:

    I really wanted to agree with you, but the article is just riddled with gaping errors. Much can be said about racism in this case without making stuff up.

    (1) Is Treyvon really holding a bag in this picture? That is the central contention of this article. But I don’t see it. There is something white near his left hand. It might be a bag, might not. The article says its a “paper bag,” but aren’t those brown? And whatever it is, he doesn’t appear to be holding it, though it is hard to tell from this angle. Reasonable minds could certainly differ as to whether he is holding the bag. I wouldn’t be surprised if an objective majority of people would look at the photo and say he’s not holding the white thing. So you can’t just charge into this story and assumptively proclaim that Treyvon was holding a bag and the whole damn world missed this critical, obvious evidence. That, sir, is dishonest.

    (2) Is it really true that “all the scientific evidence disproved George’s lies?” This article does not provide an exhaustive account of the scientific evidence admitted at trial. So we must take your assertion through faith. But even the evidence presented in the article is inconclusive. Like why would Treyvon’s DNA have to be on Zimmerman’s head to support Zimmerman’s tale? A lack of DNA proves nothing. You don’t need to touch someone’s head to smash it into pavement. You can push their shoulders, grab their hair, or maybe you are holding a bag and pushing that up against the head. And what about Trayvon’s bloody knuckles, and Zimmerman’s bloody head? That circumstantial evidence didn’t make it into the article.

    I could go on. In short, you bring an enormous dose of bias to the story that clouds your reason and causes you to make unsupported assertions. This is unfortunate because the Martin story contains many levels of racism deserving of serious treatment.

    I deeply resent that I have to step onto this side of the argument in order to address your intellectually dishonest analysis. Again, there is plenty of evidence that Zimmerman is a racist and Florida’s laws are applied in a discriminatory fashion without having to make stuff up.

  35. Korianne says:

    Regardless of the matter: Someone died, a seventeen year old died. It is sad, but in no way will anyone ever convict the killer again. Double Jeopardy. Everyone needs to quit blowing this case up. It is OVER, finished. The jury made their decision–do people disagree yes? But honestly, everyone is blowing it up because of race.

    Beyonce, Jay Z, Obama, none of them supported rallies for Caylee Anthony when her mom was considered Innocent. In fact the rallies did not even last a fourth as long as they have for Martin. And not to mention all the other victims who got no media coverage. The Martin case was definitely not the only one being tried, but it was the only one which received coverage.

    Yes Martin died. He was a seventeen year old who did not get to experience the rest of his life. It is sad, but the jury ruled Zimmerman as not guilty. Are you going to hate them for the rest of their lives? Are you going to judge them and proceed to fuel the hate-fire? Because the President and celebrities are. And they damn well should not and neither should any of you. Move on, regardless of your opinion. Whatever you lot are doing to stir up attention it will never bring the seventeen year old back from the dead. Move on with life. Do not keep bringing this up, let the past remain where it is. Where it should be.

    Wanting justice for those killed is understandable; but do not trample on other people’s justice to do so. Those jury members–their lives will never be the same. But you do not know their reasons for their ‘Not Guilty’ vote. The other victims who got no media coverage, but are just as important or even their family members who are suffering the lose of a loved one just as much as Martin’s family. Do not trample on their justice either. Martin is dead and will remain so. Once again, it is sad his life was cut short; but none-the-less it happened.

    Regardless of what really went down that night, this needs to end. The jury made the decision through our Judicial system. Nothing more can be done to “Really get justice”. Everyone is making it about race when quite honestly none of us even know if that really was the case. So let it lie, all of you: the people clashing with the ruling, the president, the celebrities let the damn case rest.

    “The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.” ~Gandhi.

  36. american123 says:

    Well done Mr. Hall

  37. Mary Lou Berry says:

    that’s rubber gloves by his hand ..the medic used… to do their vitals.. . the empty 7-11 bag was found on the sidewalk about 30 to 40 ft. south of the T. The 7-11 video reveals it was a brown plastic bag.. the cashier that night in the court room said it was a plastic bag… Martin as seen in the video after purchasing the Skittles and Arizona Watermelon Fruit Juce cocktail..put the skittles in his hoodie pocket and the cashier bagged the drink… the drink was removed out of Martins hoodie pouch when the medic went to lift his shirt… You can delete this again no matter how many dumb uneducated readers you have it doesn’t erase the facts. That your story is made up race baiting garbage.

    • Swag_4_Life says:

      Many people aren’t concerned with facts that any reasonable human being can see with their own eyes so much as they are with “suspension of disbelief.” This story is so compelling and they need for it to be true so they’ll defend it at the expense of reason and common sense. This article is equivalent to walking into a KKK rally and yelling “Hey everybody! Black people suck!” Tom is preaching to the choir and I believe he’s intelligent and educated enough to fully realize that. His screed does not stand up to critical thinking, it simply pleads for an emotional response from the progressive mutual appreciation society.

  38. Mary Lou Berry says:

    Clearly someone that hasn’t looked at the evidence… or watched the trial… the empty 7-11 bag was found 30 to 40 feet south of the T.. laying on the sidewalk… Video showed.. While he was at the 7-11 … Martin put the Skittles into his hoodie front pocket pouch ….the only thing he had in that bag was the 23 oz can of Watermelon Fruit Juice Cocktail… What you see in that picture is a rubber glove that the medics used… its laying by his hand… Trayvon Martin emptied that bag prior to the altercation… the medic took the can out of his front hoodie pocket when she went to lift his shirt to place the cardio monitor tabs to his chest… please do some research before you write such disinformation and lies… to bolster some kind of innocents of Trayvon Martin. The boy deliberatly attacked and assault George Zimmerman.

    • Oh, so Zimmerman never got out of his car and followed the kid? Because if some loon was following me and I was afraid, I might just try to protect myself and turn around to confront my pursuer. Had Zimmerman not felt all macho because he had a gun, I bet he would have stayed in his care and not stalked the kid. If the kid did punch him etc (with no DNA from Zimmerman found on his hands etc, I find it hard to believe), then I think Trayvon was standing his ground and Zimmerman deserved to be punched.

  39. uaskigyrl says:

    After reading through some of the comments, I have decided that it’s time for me to put my bitchyrantingface on.

    People. Let me explain this to you as nicely as I can: LATINOS ARE WHITE! Latinos are also black, asian, arab, and indian.

    Latino is NOT a race. Latino is a cultural/ethnicity association. Only in the wonderful USA are Latinos = brown.
    Ok, now that I’ve got that out of the way. Let me tell you a little about South America. Peruvians, Chileans, and Argentinians are actually quite racist to both blacks and indians. The history of Chile/Peru has a horrible reputation for treating the Native’s quite horribly and basically killing almost all of them. Also, the slave trade never quite made it to Peru, Chile, and Argentina because the ships would have to go around the horn of Argentina (hence why Brazil had such a huge population of slaves…it was too darn hard to keep going when there’s land right in front of you) so there are virtually NO BLACKS in Peru, Chile, or Argentina. Sure, there are a few here and there but for the most part, Peruvians/Chileans/Argentinians have only seen blacks on the tv. They are also very classist so since the blacks they have contact with are mostly Cuban and Dominican, they view a lot of them as beneath them.
    Now, Let’s fast forward to WWII. After WWII ended and the Nazi party was broken up and were being brought up on war crimes, many Nazi’s fled to Peru, Chile, and Argentina – hence, Peru/Chile/Argentina have very large German communities. It’s not uncommon to come across a Peruvian/Chilean/Argentinian with a German last name. Also, because of this Naziism isn’t looked at in quite the same way as it is here – especially with the younger generations since the stigma has really died. Remember, Peru/Chile/Argentina were just way too poor to have any real impact on WWII. Ya, many of them might have fought but it wasn’t a large outpouring of Axis v Allies mentality. George Zimmerman’s mother was an immigrant and she married a LAWYER, so she’s already seeing herself as better because she’s higher class and married to someone who is educated. I would not be surprised if she is actually quite racist and raised her son to be prejudice.
    I’m chilean, so studying up on the history of that part of South America was very important to me. Peru/Chile/Argentinians are all very similar historically.
    /rantout/

    • Swag_4_Life says:

      Ahem…that’s racist. In fact, that post is the most racist one I’ve read on this thread. Congratulations, you are now an honorary redneck.

  40. Unfortunately, the premise of the blog is incorrect; that is a medical glove, not a paper bag.

  41. Elder Berry says:

    There is plenty of sad reality to go around in this case, but under Florida law, the judge gave the jury instruction the law required, and the jury rendered a verdict that is not improper under the law. The judge could not, given SYG, offer any instruction on any circumstance when self-defense would not apply. And the reasonable doubt accrues in the defendant’s behalf. It appeared that the prosecution may not have made an air-tight enough case to remove reasonable doubt for this jury. Remember, our system does deliberately give the benefit of the doubt to the accused. It is the tragedy of this case that Zimmerman did not give the benefit of the doubt to Trayvon Martin. No matter what excuses he made or makes in the future, no matter what any NRA apologist for him may say, Zimmerman killed an unarmed 17 year old boy. He may not be in prison, but he has stained his soul.

  42. Craig Hanrahan says:

    Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against
    a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.Now it may be due to socioeconomic reasons or whatever you want to tell yourself. But that is probably why more black men get shot.

    • Eddie Antuna says:

      Well it may be so that there are more black robberies than white. Some of them have good reasons, not justifiable, but good. But if we really must get into crime and color, there are more white serial killers than black. Another thing is that the amount of crimes committed by blacks have been on the decline. On a socioeconomic standpoint There have been more black males in college then in jail since around 2007-2008. Those numbers keep growing as well. People have had a common misconception of this trial. It was never about him being black or the other being white, I personally think that George Zimmerman is guilty for not only judging, but prosecuting, convicting and sentencing a teen aged boy to death outside of the legal justice system on suspicion alone. There was no justice in this case, there was no calming of the storm. Only misery, the misery of a family losing a son and a brother. His future was taken from him, this should not stand.

      • Craig Hanrahan says:

        In regards to Robbing white people you said “some of them have good reasons, not justifiable, but good.”.. Well then I say Zimmerman had a good reason to follow trayvon through his neighborhood, not justifiable, but good. Following is not against the law…assault is. He felt his life was in danger and killed him…a jury of all women found a Hispanic man not guilty…so get over it. If you dislike stand your ground law then move forward from here and try to change it. And since you feel there are good reasons to rob people then its just one more reason I’m glad my state has its own version of stand your ground called the no duty to retreat law. so I’ll be ready for those who think its a good idea, white/black, whoever.

  43. Yes you ignore all the nasty tweets about Martin

  44. Craig Hanrahan says:

    Zimmerman was not white. He looks Hispanic, and self identifies as Hispanic.
    President Obama is not considered white.
    Other than that I agree w/ this article. I would have liked to see the picture sooner, it has altered my opinion greatly.
    Zimmerman is not white.

  45. This is the 1st time I have seen this picture and I noticed one other thing beside
    the fact Trayvon held on to that bag of Skittles while he was supposedly bashing Zimmerman’s head into the ground. Look at his pants Trayvon’s pants…… Take a GOOD look, I remember hearing that Zimmerman said Trayvon was ON TOP of him, straddling him and bashing his head into the gtoinand Zimmerman had to push him off and crawl out from underneath Trayvon after he was DEAD. Any mother of a little boy knows with those light pants on and grass Trayvon knees would have been covered with grass stains! That is unless Martin was the one on the ground and Zimmerman was the one on top…. Seems to me that would be the way it happened: ZIMMERMAN WAS ON TOP WHILE HE KILLED TRAYVON MARTIN!

    • Tionia, you obviously do not know the facts of the case. Every statement you made is incorrect according to the evidence presented at trial. Trayvon was not holding a bag of skittles. The picture above is Trayvon after the police arrived and rolled him over in order to attempt to save his life. The police officer asked a resident for a plastic shopping bag in order to cover the bullet hole in Trayvon’s chest to try to stop the loss of blood. There are grass stains on Trayvon’s pants. John Good was only 15 to 20 feet away and could see the best of all eye witnesses that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman hitting him MMA Ground and Pound style. When Zimmerman shot Trayvon he sat up and fell slightly to the side and Zimmerman was able to slide out from underneath Trayvon who was now face down. It was impossible for Zimmerman to have been on top of Trayvon. The expert brought in by the defense, whose testimony was unconnected explained that the muzzle of the gun was against the clothing but the clothing was 2 to 4 inches away from the body. John Good walked back into his home in order to call 911 and as he was connecting the shot went off. Also he told both to stop fighting. This was when Trayvon could have stopped because Zimmerman was telling at John Good for help. Trayvon could have stopped but did not. The true racists in this case are Rachel Jeantel and Trayvon Martin. At no time did Zimmerman refer to Trayvon in a racist manner, which has already been investigated by the FBI. But Rachel and Trayvon did profile Zimmerman in a racial manner and evidence of such is when Zimmerman was called a “Creepy Ass Cracka”. Trayvon was taught to be a racist from his parents.

      • And no expert has ever been wrong? So who exactly were the “fn” punks who always get away with this stuff?

        • Swag_4_Life says:

          The same “punks” who had committed a string of robberies, assaults and a home invasion in the month leading up to this event. Police were sent there 480 times in 13 months prior to this incident. .Who the hell decides they’re going to up and go walk two miles in the freezing rain to get a can of watermelon juice and a pack of candy then walk around the complex behind houses and in mail rooms instead of going straight home?

  46. im so tired of hearing “he isn’t white, he’s hispanic”. Hispanic ancestry comes from Spain which is a EUROPEAN country. there are white hispanics because ethnicity and race are not the same thing. Hispanic doesn’t mean not white!

  47. Godzilla11 says:

    I’m sorry but all the good points you listed are done away by your blatant ignorance here. “No evidence” that Zimmerman got his ass beat? The evidence was all over his face and head. Trayvon clearly didn’t get stalked and followed then shot for doing “nothing wrong”. He started beating this living piss out of George. I’m not saying that provides an excuse for “George” to do what he did, as I wasn’t there. You’re an extremist just like all the pro-George crazies.

    • uaskigyrl says:

      Ok, if his injuires were so bad, why didn’t the police take pictures of his injuries when he was at the crime scene – or call him an EMT? At the crime scene, they allowed George to go home…then later that night, they asked him to go to the police station, and he magically had injuries…

      • Holy Cow says:

        What the hell are you talking about? Everything you said is wrong. The picture of GZ in the car with the swollen nose and blood was taken by Officer Michael Wagner of the Sanford PD. Also, GZ WAS treated by an EMT on scene. She testified in the trial. And last, GZ was handcuffed on scene and taken directly to the police station. Did you watch the trial?

      • Swag_4_Life says:

        They DID call an EMT!! God almighty! Did you watch any of the trial at all?!?! This is insane…I cant do this, it’s like arguing with religious whackos or scientologists.

    • uaskigyrl says:

      And, LATINO IS WHITE! Latino is also black, asian, arab, and indian. LATINO is NOT a race. It’s an ethnicity and cultural association…
      God, Americans are so quick to label race and put race in nice tidy boxes.

  48. sorry I see no clutching at all

  49. Swag_4_Life says:

    Would you mind posting the picture of him holding the bag in his hand? If “it was the picture that convinced” you, then fancy us a peek-a-loo. How was it that the bag, if it is in the photo, changed from a plastic bag — which you can clearly see the clerk placing his Watermelon “Iced Tea” and Skittles in on the 7-11 surveillance video on YouTube. and you’ll see.–to the pare variety normally reserved for beer.

    Just search for ” Trayvon Martin Full 7-11 Video Surveillance Footage ”

    Perhaps explaining this would convince me that Zimmerman inflicted his own injuries in the seconds before police arrived, when he was in full view of a dozen people.

    • Selina Grissom says:

      I stopped reading when I got to the “paper bag in his hand”…although, I completely disagree with the verdict…I have said more than once that I believe GZ nose was broken when the gun kicked back and smacked him in the face, because he was at such close range when he shot Trayvon…don’t believe it? Watch “The Last Stand”, it happens in the beginning of the movie when they’re out there shooting a gun…and there are tons of “funny” videos on youtube of the same thing happening to people that don’t know how to handle a gun properly…I also believe that the photo of him with the bloody nose is photoshopped because it isn’t nearly as swollen a few hours later…and it should be and he should have black eyes atleast beginning…he doesn’t…

      • Swag_4_Life says:

        Well…if you don’t read what someone else has to say (ie. “I stopped reading when….”) then it’s logical to assume that you’e not really searching for answers, perhaps instead simply looking for what essentially amounts to a sort of “moral pornography” in which pieces like the above deliver nicely.

        I suppose anything is possible, but your scenario is simply not likely. I seriously don’t think you watched the trial. Both sides conceded that Martin had inflicted Zimmerman’s injuries. If you’ve ever fired a pistol such as the one Zimmerman was licensed to carry, you’d know that the recoil on this weapon tends to roll sideways and up…not “back” like a revolver, which is why there are two different grips employed when holding them respectively.

        I did read and consider your other points, but I’m going to go ahead and wish you well because you’re sliding into the realm of conspiracy theory.with “photoshopped” evidence and the like. I’m simply not mentally equipped to debate that sort of thing.

  50. Swag_4_Life says:

    Would you mind posting the picture of him holding the bag in his hand? If “it was the picture that convinced” you, then fancy us a peek-a-loo. How was it that the bag, if it is in the photo, changed from a plastic bag — which you can clearly see the clerk placing his Watermelon “Iced Tea” and Skittles in on the 7-11 surveillance video on YouTube. and you’ll see.–to the pare variety normally reserved for beer.

    Just search for ” Trayvon Martin Full 7-11 Video Surveillance Footage ”

    Perhaps explaining this would convince me that Zimmerman inflicted his own injuries in the seconds before police arrived, when he was in full view of a dozen people.

  51. Swag_4_Life says:

    Tom, this article is complete exaggeration wrapped in hyperbole, if not flat out erroneous disinformation. Understandably, you must appeal to your core audience, but come on man! Are you serious with this? Is this some kind of “could have happened” book proposal you’re fleshing out?

    - If the jurors had rendered the verdict you wanted, you’d have called them just, wise, fair and intelligent modern women who weren’t afraid to stand up to racism and the white privelaged patriarchy….Or something along those lines. Hell, I would if I were writing that story.

    - Are you seriously invoking the ghost of Emmit Till? To even suggest that these two incidents are even remotely similar is to push race relations in this country back fifty years. Think about what you wrote here, and then think about the people of all colors and backgrounds who have sacrificed and come this far.

    - This media-driven, race pimping circus is a bonanza payday for all parties involved. Think “OJ.Simpson”..hello?? Of course Zimmerman is going to get paid. But so are Trayvon’s parents. The homeowner’s association has written them a check for $1 million, not to mention that they have trademarked Trayvon’s name — literally!. So now you’re talking merch, swag, book royalties, talk show circuit, public speaking events etc. They’ll never have to work again and be are already canonized in the black community as sacred cows. Zimmerman is incurring an enormous amount of legal expense as well as a 24 hour armed security detail, so let that be some comfort in your time of grief over this “child” whom you did not know and are apparently using to purge your white guilt, nor would have ever even known about until the race baiting industry selected it as injustice du jour.

    - Zimmerman didn’t demand his gun be released. This is just outright negligence on your part as a journalist. Some Einstein in a newsroom during an editorial meeting likely brainstormed this one. The fact is that Zimmerman is innocent of any crimes and the weapon is his property. He is entitled to get it back, just as he will his clothing, flashlight and cellphone and any other property used in the investigation. It was not used in the commission of a crime. But even still, he has yet to ask for it back, only the possibility that he could get it back has been raised. The DOJ has now put a hold on releasing it, pending their further investigation a civil rights violation.

    - Trayvon had bought a watermelon drink., not an iced tea. This is only important because the persistent parroting of “skittles-and-tea-skittles-and-tea-skittles-and-tea- skittles-and-tea- skittles-and-tea-” is simply a device, and “watermelon” just doesn’t quite fit the “Saint Skittle” narrative. There is a difference, because they are quite delicious and if someone mistakingly bought me an Arizona Iced Tea instead of the fruit punch, I’d be upset and want my money back. I’ll drop it if you will, but ask yourself how much different the narrative would be if he’d bought a sour pickle and a Jet magazine.

  52. Swag_4_Life says:

    Tom, this article is complete exaggeration wrapped in hyperbole, if not flat out erroneous disinformation. Understandably, you must appeal to your core audience, but come on man! Are you serious with this? Is this some kind of “could have happened” book proposal you’re fleshing out?

    - If the jurors had rendered the verdict you wanted, you’d have called them just, wise, fair and intelligent modern women who weren’t afraid to stand up to racism and the white privelaged patriarchy….Or something along those lines. Hell, I would if I were writing that story.

    - Are you seriously invoking the ghost of Emmit Till? To even suggest that these two incidents are even remotely similar is to push race relations in this country back fifty years. Think about what you wrote here, and then think about the people of all colors and backgrounds who have sacrificed and come this far.

    - This media-driven, race pimping circus is a bonanza payday for all parties involved. Think “OJ.Simpson”..hello?? Of course Zimmerman is going to get paid. But so are Trayvon’s parents. The homeowner’s association has written them a check for $1 million, not to mention that they have trademarked Trayvon’s name — literally!. So now you’re talking merch, swag, book royalties, talk show circuit, public speaking events etc. They’ll never have to work again and be are already canonized in the black community as sacred cows. Zimmerman is incurring an enormous amount of legal expense as well as a 24 hour armed security detail, so let that be some comfort in your time of grief over this “child” whom you did not know and are apparently using to purge your white guilt, nor would have ever even known about until the race baiting industry selected it as injustice du jour.

    - Zimmerman didn’t demand his gun be released. This is just outright negligence on your part as a journalist. Some Einstein in a newsroom during an editorial meeting likely brainstormed this one. The fact is that Zimmerman is innocent of any crimes and the weapon is his property. He is entitled to get it back, just as he will his clothing, flashlight and cellphone and any other property used in the investigation. It was not used in the commission of a crime. But even still, he has yet to ask for it back, only the possibility that he could get it back has been raised. The DOJ has now put a hold on releasing it, pending their further investigation a civil rights violation.

    - Trayvon had bought a watermelon drink., not an iced tea. This is only important because the persistent parroting of “skittles-and-tea-skittles-and-tea-skittles-and-tea- skittles-and-tea- skittles-and-tea-” is simply a device, and “watermelon” just doesn’t quite fit the “Saint Skittle” narrative. There is a difference, because they are quite delicious and if someone mistakingly bought me an Arizona Iced Tea instead of the fruit punch, I’d be upset and want my money back. I’ll drop it if you will, but ask yourself how much different the narrative would be if he’d bought a sour pickle and a Jet magazine.

  53. Swag_4_Life says:

    Tom, this article is complete exaggeration wrapped in hyperbole, if not flat out erroneous disinformation. Understandably, you must appeal to your core audience, but come on man! Are you serious with this? Is this some kind of “could have happened” book proposal you’re fleshing out?

    - If the jurors had rendered the verdict you wanted, you’d have called them just, wise, fair and intelligent modern women who weren’t afraid to stand up to racism and the white privelaged patriarchy….Or something along those lines. Hell, I would if I were writing that story.

    - Are you seriously invoking the ghost of Emmit Till? To even suggest that these two incidents are even remotely similar is to push race relations in this country back fifty years. Think about what you wrote here, and then think about the people of all colors and backgrounds who have sacrificed and come this far.

    - This media-driven, race pimping circus is a bonanza payday for all parties involved. Think “OJ.Simpson”..hello?? Of course Zimmerman is going to get paid. But so are Trayvon’s parents. The homeowner’s association has written them a check for $1 million, not to mention that they have trademarked Trayvon’s name — literally!. So now you’re talking merch, swag, book royalties, talk show circuit, public speaking events etc. They’ll never have to work again and be are already canonized in the black community as sacred cows. Zimmerman is incurring an enormous amount of legal expense as well as a 24 hour armed security detail, so let that be some comfort in your time of grief over this “child” whom you did not know and are apparently using to purge your white guilt, nor would have ever even known about until the race baiting industry selected it as injustice du jour.

    - Zimmerman didn’t demand his gun be released. This is just outright negligence on your part as a journalist. Some Einstein in a newsroom during an editorial meeting likely brainstormed this one. The fact is that Zimmerman is innocent of any crimes and the weapon is his property. He is entitled to get it back, just as he will his clothing, flashlight and cellphone and any other property used in the investigation. It was not used in the commission of a crime. But even still, he has yet to ask for it back, only the possibility that he could get it back has been raised. The DOJ has now put a hold on releasing it, pending their further investigation a civil rights violation.

    - Trayvon had bought a watermelon drink., not an iced tea. This is only important because the persistent parroting of “skittles-and-tea-skittles-and-tea-skittles-and-tea- skittles-and-tea- skittles-and-tea-” is simply a device, and “watermelon” just doesn’t quite fit the “Saint Skittle” narrative. There is a difference, because they are quite delicious and if someone mistakingly bought me an Arizona Iced Tea instead of the fruit punch, I’d be upset and want my money back. I’ll drop it if you will, but ask yourself how much different the narrative would be if he’d bought a sour pickle and a Jet magazine.

  54. Geo. McCalip says:

    In law there is a technical difference between not guilty and innocent.

    Not guilty happens when the prosecution presents such a lame case that the defendant (who they never really wanted to prosecute) walks.

    The prosecution should have used Stand Your Ground on behalf of Trayvon since apparently Trayvon was the one on trial here.

    Bottom line on this case IMHO is that the prosecution did not want to bring it to begin with and saw no political upside in winning it. Under those circumstances they did the minimum necessary to say they tried the case.

    If the son of a retired black state Supreme Court Justice were to shoot a poor white boy I believe the results would be pretty much the same as when George Zimmerman, the son of a retired Virginia Supreme Court Justice shot Trayvon Martin, a poor black boy.

    Do you really doubt that? Really? What about if a rich and famous black football player were to kill a pretty white woman. Or have you forgotten that one already? (Hint: OJ)

    The verdict in this case is every bit as much about class as it is about race.

    Admitted, it was race that made this case a national news story. If it had been two white people it might have made news at the state level. If it had been two black people it might have made the news at the local level. So are we truly a post racial society? Obviously not.

    But when it comes to justice we have the best courts that money can buy.

    *****

    BTW, Tom, thanks for an excellent article.

    • Swag_4_Life says:

      Yeah, I remember OJ. I remember a monumental avalanche of evidence of every description pointing to him being at the crime scene. I remember unexplained cuts on his fingers. I remember a suicide note. I remember a bronco chase as he attempted to flee with a disguise and a sack of cash. I remember watching in mute horror as black people I had known for years, and apparently had not one racially tainted bone in their body, cheered with spontaneous and ecstatic glee as the verdict was read, one black juror defiantly raising his clenched fist in a black power saute.

      It is virtually a universal truth now that OJ Simpson stalked and brutally murdered two innocent people, including his ex-wife whom for years he’d terrorized with physical and verbal abuse. The state lost their case due to a single incident of evidence mishandling and a braggart racist cop who was put on trial instead of the man who was so convinced of his own innocence that he retained the services of the priciest, most esteemed and talented defense team ever assembled under the sun.

      This case has everything to do with race because race sells. People love the drama and the mystery. Actual litigation and court proceedings are quite droll and boring, so we have the likes of Nancy Grace to pre-chew and digest it all for us and tell us what we need to know via in-depth 140-character analysis on twitter. This article is evidence that we’ll never get past the racial divide in this nation, because…well…it’s just too much fun to hate, isn’t it?

      • Selina Grissom says:

        If you do a little research on the OJ jury…there is an ugly rumor that they let him go so they could “stick it to the Man”…

  55. Tom, this article is complete exaggeration wrapped in hyperbole, if not flat out erroneous disinformation. Understandably, you must appeal to your core audience, but come on man! Are you serious with this? Is this some kind of “could have happened” book proposal you’re fleshing out?

    - If the jurors had rendered the verdict you wanted, you’d have called them just, wise, fair and intelligent modern women who weren’t afraid to stand up to racism and the white privelaged patriarchy….Or something along those lines. Hell, I would if I were writing that story.
    - Are you seriously invoking the ghost of Emmit Till? To even suggest that these two incidents are even remotely similar is to push race relations in this country back fifty years. Think about what you wrote here, and then think about the people of all colors and backgrounds who have sacrificed and come this far.
    - This media-driven, race pimping circus is a bonanza payday for all parties involved. Think “OJ.Simpson”..hello?? Of course Zimmerman is going to get paid. But so are Trayvon’s parents. The homeowner’s association has written them a check for $1 million, not to mention that they have trademarked Trayvon’s name — literally!. So now you’re talking merch, swag, book royalties, talk show circuit, public speaking events etc. They’ll never have to work again and be are already canonized in the black community as sacred cows. Zimmerman is incurring an enormous amount of legal expense as well as a 24 hour armed security detail, so let that be some comfort in your time of grief over this “child” whom you did not know and are apparently using to purge your white guilt, nor would have ever even known about until the race baiting industry selected it as injustice du jour.
    -

  56. Excellent article! Essential! Thank You!

  57. spanky18 says:

    “WE DON’T NEED YOU TO FOLLOW HIM”. George.
    What don’t you understand about THAT?

  58. Lana M. Gavin says:

    Tom Hall – Is it a fact that Trayvon was still clutching onto the bag? If that’s true, how could he possibly have been beating up on zimmerman? Was it brought out during the trial? I don’t remember it. Does anyone know? This case is not going away any time soon. It’s a travesty of justice IMO.

  59. Lana M. Gavin says:

    Tom Hall – Is it a fact that Trayvon was still clutching onto the bag? If that’s true, how could he possibly have been beating up on zimmerman? Was it brought out during the trial? I don’t remember it. Does anyone know? This case is not going away any time soon. It’s a travesty of justice IMO.

  60. I would like to just bring one thing up. Does anyone notice at the spot where the police showed up at when they took a picture of George getting into the back of the police car. His nose was all big but in that what 15 minute ride to the station when they got there they took another picture and his nose did not look nothing like it did 15 minutes before. In that picture in looked like he was no where at all that bad. Just saying…

  61. hello111 says:

    I posted this before but it seems to have gotten delated.

    I don’t know if the person who wrote this watched any of the trial or sat through the hours where they described the body, but there was no evidence of him still clutching a bag, and in fact, the only grocery bag was the one a neighbor brought to help plud the wound. The Arizona tea was in his pocket. He was sat up, turned around (the body was on the stomach first) and several wittnesses said they saw two men with arms flailing fighting. Other photos clearly show him not clutching a bag. (And I don’t even see one here.)

    I’m not trying to change your mind, and I’m certainly not as described below a “white gun toter” because I detest guns and I detest that Zimmerman was walking around with a gun. I think he’s a hero-wannabe.

    But still, it’s important to get the facts correct. If this were actually true it would firmly suggest he was shot immediately and it would have been all over the news.

    A transcript from the trial:

    “1:33 p.m. ET: Prosecutor Guy shows two photos of Martin’s body after he was pronounced dead — one is a close-up image. Guy points out the CPR mask. He also shows photos of Martin’s body once the blanket was placed over it. Another photo shows the grocery bag Raimondo was going to use to seal Martin’s chest wound. The prosecution has finished its direct examination.

    Martin’s dad, Tracy, leaves the courtroom as the photos are displayed. His mother, Sybrina Fulton, remains seated but avoids looking at the photos. She eventually leaves the courtroom as well.

    1:30 p.m. ET: Raimondo couldn’t find an exit wound so he put Martin down on his back and continued CPR. When rescuers arrived, they hooked up an EKG machine to Martin. He was pronounced dead on the scene. Raimondo put an emergency blanket on Martin’s body out of respect for Martin and his family and to preserve evidence.

    1:27 p.m. ET: Raimondo heard bubbling sounds from Martin’s chest. He asked the crowd for plastic wrap and Vaseline, which he would use to try and seal the chest wound. A bystander gave him a grocery bag. Raimondo raised Martin to a seated position so he could seal the exit wound on Martin’s back first.”

  62. Hello111 says:

    seems to me that if you see a “grocery bag” there it was from the one a neighbor brought to try to seal the wound? See below.

  63. Hello111 says:

    I am not going to change anyone’s mind and I am not trying to. The “clutched bag” is hard to see there, and I’ve not seen a clutched bag on the crime scene photos from when he was laying on his stomach or after he was turned over. Plus, they sat him up, moved him around and preformed CPR before the photographer arrived. Nothing from the trial doesn’t say he was still clutching a bag, and here’s some of the actual transcript below. Even if he were defending himself, hard to believe he was clutching bag. And the Arizona tea was in his pocket of his sweatshirt. I don’t know who the man is who wrote this blog post.

    Really, though, please feel free to feel outrage at the verdict. I don’t know what happened.

    “1:33 p.m. ET: Prosecutor Guy shows two photos of Martin’s body after he was pronounced dead — one is a close-up image. Guy points out the CPR mask. He also shows photos of Martin’s body once the blanket was placed over it. Another photo shows the grocery bag Raimondo was going to use to seal Martin’s chest wound. The prosecution has finished its direct examination.

    Martin’s dad, Tracy, leaves the courtroom as the photos are displayed. His mother, Sybrina Fulton, remains seated but avoids looking at the photos. She eventually leaves the courtroom as well.

    1:30 p.m. ET: Raimondo couldn’t find an exit wound so he put Martin down on his back and continued CPR. When rescuers arrived, they hooked up an EKG machine to Martin. He was pronounced dead on the scene. Raimondo put an emergency blanket on Martin’s body out of respect for Martin and his family and to preserve evidence.

    1:27 p.m. ET: Raimondo heard bubbling sounds from Martin’s chest. He asked the crowd for plastic wrap and Vaseline, which he would use to try and seal the chest wound. A bystander gave him a grocery bag. Raimondo raised Martin to a seated position so he could seal the exit wound on Martin’s back first.”

  64. eccles11 says:

    ” No evidence that Trayvon Martin grasped his head and slammed it into the ground. ”

    Either you are being dishonest because on an agenda, or you are lacking many details one would expect before writing an article.

    There are photographs of Zimmerman, and video footage after the shooting showing him with blood coming out the back of his head. That is not “No evidence”.

    I want to see Zimmerman behind bars as much as the next person, but I don’t condone dishonesty to get it.

  65. All the people that are making this in to a race war.SHAME ON YOU.It was a fair trial and it would have went the same way with any color.

  66. .45StayAlive says:

    Trayvon Martin is not clutching the bag in the photo. It is next to his body. And even if he was clutching it, Zimmerman’s wounds, including his broken nose and the cuts and bruises to the back of his head collaborate his claim that Martin was pummeling him and smashing his head into the concrete sidewalk. Do you think Martin was able to do all that while holding his bag in one hand? That would make him one heck of a fighter and even more dangerous! And in fact, the gunshot residue and stripling on the shirt but not on Martin’s body show that the shirt was hanging several inches in front of Martin – showing that just as Zimmerman said, Martin was on top of him attempting to beat him to death.

    But don’t let facts get in the way of your rants. This case had nothing to do with race. It had to do with a thug that didn’t like being suspected of being in the process of committing a crime (which at the time of the incident, he actually wasn’t – but that can’t be said for his past endeavors, can it?).

    • Karen McHale says:

      Then explain why there are no defensive wounds on either guys’ hands. You mean to say that GZ was SUCH a cream puff that he didn’t even try to fight back? And how did his “broken nose” miraculously heal in twenty minutes, on the drive to the station? Because the pictures at the station don’t show a broken nose OR a bashed head. And how come there is no blood on TM’s hands? If he was holding his hands over GZ’s mouth, as was claimed, there would have been traces of DNA and blood would have been all over it. Rain would NOT have washed it away. Have you tried washing blood off your hands? You need soap and water. And there is still DNA if you didn’t thoroughly wash them. And then. there is the timeline, confirmed by cell phone records.

    • Karen McHale says:

      Then explain why there are no defensive wounds on either guys’ hands. You mean to say that GZ was SUCH a cream puff that he didn’t even try to fight back? And how did his “broken nose” miraculously heal in twenty minutes, on the drive to the station? Because the pictures at the station don’t show a broken nose OR a bashed head. And how come there is no blood on TM’s hands? If he was holding his hands over GZ’s mouth, as was claimed, there would have been traces of DNA and blood would have been all over it. Rain would NOT have washed it away. Have you tried washing blood off your hands? You need soap and water. And there is still DNA if you didn’t thoroughly wash them. And then. there is the timeline, confirmed by cell phone records.

    • Topcat60 says:

      .455, I have a question for you. How do YOU know Trayvon inflicted those injuries to GZ? Let’s give you that, TM did beat the s..t out of GZ, dosen’t TM have the right to defend himself as well as GZ? You guys seem to miss the point that GZ got out of his car, followed TM and approached TM (per GZ and jurorB37). GZ was just a strange man following TM what was he to think? If GZ was in fear and he was following do you think TM might have felt fear also? You keep talking about FACTS here are the FACTS anyone(besides TM & GZ) knows about THAT NIGHT(we will get to BOTH person’s ‘THUG’ element later), TM left a home his father was visiting went to a store bought a tea & candy and walked back to the community he left. GZ (his words) left his home to go get stuff for his lunch for the next days work. He decided to do his neighborhood watch thing so he starts to RIDE his community. A community that like most others have had a few(not a epidemic as GZ said per the detective)break ins. He had made numerous non emergency 911 calls (per 911) over 40 on black males. The arguement of ‘Well, he only said black male to 911 when asked but 911 wasn’t the one who CALLED. It’s their job to ask for a ID but it was GZ who only found black men suspect enough to call on. Anyway, (his words) “a person looks suspicious, like he’s up to no good”. An opinion already, at the least forming, TM (GZ words) standing walking in rain between apartments, as people often do. He relays this to 911 operator that “suspect” is checking him out and has something in his hands, 911 then asks GZ if he is following said person. His reply YES. 911 operator states “We don’t need you to do that. After that NO ONE BUT GZ AND TM KNOW WHAT REALLY WENT ON. We only have one side of the story. Rather to save his life or to make sure only one side of the confrontation is told We will never know. Why? Now we get to the THUG portion. Neither of these participants were angels but it;s only TM that has his character called into question. TM smoked pot(although toxicology reports at time of death show only trace amounts), he was suspended from school 2 times. for truancy and graffiti and a weed pipe, Nothing violent or nothing a lot of other teens haven’t been suspended for. The burglary “tool” he was caught with was a FLATHEAD SCREWDRIVER! The jewelry he supposedly had he said wasn’t his police took and he had NO CRIMINAL RECORD.( Per the Miami Herald) PERIOD. What 17 year old hasn’t had problems, lost their way at times on the road to maturity? Children are especially subject to learning to mature, Now let’s talk about a grown adult GZ. He was arrested for assault on a police officer, assault on an ex girlfriend (complete with restraining order and anger management classes). Now shooting an unarmed child. He may have skirted some of the charges except the anger management & order to stay away but the fact remains he DID theses acts, they are FACTS. So, who is the KNOWN VIOLENT CRIMINAL THUG REALLY?

  67. What the picture of Trayvon Martin shows was a child who was shot in the chest, while clutching a paper bag in his left hand.

    Where is the paper bag?

    • blueturtles says:

      It’s the white bad near his left hand. I see it.

      • hello111 says:

        read the trial testimony I posted and you will see what it was. But everyone here is professing to know what is in the blurry photo without having listening to any of the trial or analyzing any of the photos.

        believe what you want to believe on the verdict (and you will) but at least get the facts straight.

        if this were true, it would have been all over the news.

        It’s very dangerous to our nation’s psyche when citizen journalists write blogs who didn’t watch any of the trial.

        • Karen McHale says:

          The bag is not even a real issue. I don’t think there was a bag because 7-11 only gives plastic bags on request. If you have candy and a drink, most likely, TM didn’t even get a bag but put them in his pockets. There is far more evidence than a bag. And, yes, I know because I frequent 7-11 because I have a horrendous diet Pepsi addiction that needs to be fed on a regular basis and they do refills of cups (I have a plastic 44oz) for a buck.

  68. Mr. Hall…this was an amazing article. I was and still am sickened by the verdict. I never saw that picture and it makes my heart hurt even more. Do not let the people who comment negatively about your article affect you. Be glad we don’t live in their neighborhood.

    • hello111 says:

      I’m not commenting negatively about the article as much to post the transcript and my knowledge of the hours of the trial which described the body and never once in the hours of testimony said he was clutching a bag.

      If that were the case, it would have been emphsized and all over the news.

      Facts matter. And people who write blogs should really pay attention to that.

      As for the verdict, Believe what you want to believe. No one is every going to change your mind.

      • Glenna Jones-Kachtik says:

        You would think so, wouldn’t you? But in many cases where there are people in high places, evidence gets lost or not mentioned. Tell that to the 3 Memphis teens who spent 17 years in prison because the DA painted a knife as the murder weapon that had been in a lake for at least a year before the murder took place & the medical examiner who 17 years later no less than 3 other well known & expert medical examiners who debunked his testimony. The DA & the Judge refused to grant them a new trial even tho no DNA evidence ever connected them to the murder…They had to do a weird plea to be set free….Something like Not guilty but pleading guilty under the advice of attorney. FACTS do matter; but only if those facts ARE true. You can believe that GZ is innocent & that he was pure as the driven snow if you want because no one can change your mind.

        • Trayvon was not clutching a plastic bag containing candy. The plastic bag in the picture was brought out to a police officer by a neighbor. The police officer was using the bag to cover the bullet hole in Trayvon’s chest while the police officer was trying to save his life. This was all covered in the trial. So obviously you are making up facts in order to fit your story.

  69. Tom Cotrel says:

    The only real questions I have of anyone critical of the outcome is this: Was the verdict a case of jury nullification? If so, why? If not, why not?

  70. So…how did Zimmerman punch his own nose and bash his own head into the sidewalk? State photo exhibit 25 displays an angle that shows the ‘bag’ to actually be be an EMT glove. The author of the article is mistaken or lying. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e0_1372334376

    • Karen McHale says:

      His head wasn’t bashed. I looks like he scraped it on the sidewalk. As for the nose, I don’t think he was punched, either. I really question the pictures because they are not consistent. The video in the station shows no wounds at all. The pictures taken at the station show very superficial wounds. The one at the scene……it doesn’t jive with all the other pictures. I’m a photographer. Trust me, it’s not hard to Photoshop.

      • hello111 says:

        read the transcript or dedicate yourself to watching hours of the trial like many people did and you will understand.

        really? photoshopped?

        you are not going to change your mind on the verdict, and that is fine, but at least debate intelligently.

        • Karen McHale says:

          I did watch the whole trial. My kids are on summer vacation, so I have the time (and a TiVo). I heard the medical examiner say that the wounds were superficial. I saw the pictures that were taken IN THE POLICE STATION that show minor wounds and a NON-BROKEN NOSE. I heard the paramedic testify that he did NOT GO TO TO THE HOSPITAL. I saw the non-blackened eyes in all the pics. I also saw the video footage of him walking through the garage and station WITHOUT ANY WOUNDS. Funny how the prosecution didn’t introduce that one into evidence. Like I said, those squad cars must have miraculous healing powers! He went from a bloody and swollen nose at the scene to minor scratches at the station and no wounds in between!

          • Eddy Gonzales says:

            You watched the trail and made your own decision. unfortunately your decision doesn’t count That’s why we have a jury to decide, this jury made the right choice given what evidence they had to go on. So I assume you think it is a race issue & support what Al Sharpton says ? & OJ was not guilty Right ? Don’t think you would have made it to be a juror ,You have to be even minded to be selected & they were selected out of 100 or so people based on the lawyers decisions . Not their first Rodeo !

  71. To suggest race wasn’t involved in this case is ridiculous. It reeked of racism, just like the efforts to suppress the vote in certain states. Emmett Till’s photo is brutally graphic, showing the horror of racism. Showing it’s human cost. And Trayvon with a bag of fast food … perhaps nowhere near as brutal as Emmett’s, is just as telling. What trouble could a 17 year old with a bag of fast food and an iced tea be up to? Eight years ago as I watched New Orleans flood, and mostly Black folks being neglected on roof tops, I thought “HOW could this be happening in America? I had thought at least SOME progress in race relations had been made. But sadly, I’m wrong. It has not, and those of who were active in the Civil Rights movement need to get back to work. And in regards to Trayvon Martin and his killer I ask again as I asked about Katrina … HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN IN AMERICA?

    • Swag_4_Life says:

      “I ask again as I asked about Katrina … HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN IN AMERICA?”

      ——————–

      Hurricanes start when warm, moist air from the ocean surface begins to rise rapidly, where it encounters cooler air that causes the warm water vapor to condense and to form storm clouds and drops of rain. The condensation also releases latent heat, which warms the cool air above, causing it to rise and make way for more warm humid air from the ocean below.

      As this cycle continues, more warm moist air is drawn into the developing storm and more heat is transferred from the surface of the ocean to the atmosphere. This continuing heat exchange creates a wind pattern that spirals around a relatively calm center, or eye, like water swirling down a drain.

  72. Excellent piece Mr. Hall. I was moved by it. I will Share it.

  73. Susannah Cole says:

    There was nothing “White” about George Zimmerman. George Zimmerman was Hispanic and Jew. Nor was the jury a gaggle of racist “white” women hell bent on making sure a “white” man got away with murder. To imply that white people think this is “justice” for the oppressed white man is complete BS and smells of Liberal propaganda. We live in a social climate where suddenly it has become except-able for people to patrol/spy on their neighbors and report everything their neighbors do to authorities. In a country where the government pushes a “see something say something” mentality, and irrational ‘paranoid thinking’ that results in summing up everyone you meet as a potential terrorist/criminal, is it any wonder things like this happen. Take out all of the white bashing innuendo/lies and this article serves no purpose.

    • another white person that can’t tell the difference between Hispanic and Latino. And thinks that everyone named Zimmerman is Jewish.

      Ethnicity 101
      Hispanic = Spanish Ancestry. (i.e as in SPAIN)
      Latino/Latina = Latin American Ancestry. (which includes Peru)

      George Zimmerman is NOT Jewish. Zimmerman is a German surname. His father is a German- American. His mother Peruvian. He spent his childhood in Peru

      Got it?

    • Karen McHale says:

      Okay, I am getting really sick of this. I grew up the same way GZ did. I had one Hispanic parent (Mexican) and one white parent. My husband also grew up the same way, one Hispanic parent (Puerto Rican) and one white parent. We both grew up white. How? Because we both lived in very white, suburban areas. As you can see from my picture, I look as Mexican as Eric the Red. GZ grew up the same way. His dad was a judge and he grew up in a more affluent area of Virginia. In other words, his life was more privileged and he grew up pretty “white”. It’s just not the same as growing up in a Hispanic neighborhood with the last name of Gomez, Gonzalez or Garcia.

  74. KL Taylor says:

    I am truly thankful for the article and pictures… I have been a long time support of civil rights for everyone in this nation. I was familiar with Emmet Till’s story but was never clear on his mother’s insistence of him being in a open coffin. I do now. And I applaud her. I applaud Trayvon Martin’s parents too. They saw the candy bag by their son’s hand and never raised a stink about the lies of Zimmerman. You did good Mr. Hall.

  75. I guess Zimmerman’s broken nose, abrasions on the back of his head and eye witness accounts of Trayvon beating him MMA style don’t matter. I mean they are only the most important FACTS in the case. Oh BTW, the “Stand your ground” law was irrelevant in this case. This was straight up self defense. Oh, and following someone does not constitute “stalking.” the lies and deception in this are overwhelming.

    • Karen McHale says:

      Then those cop cars must have miraculous healing powers because the video footage of GZ getting out of the squad car and walking through the garage and the station show much healed wounds, including that “broken” and “bloody” nose. And the evidence photos sure don’t show a broken, bloody nose or bashed head. Just a few scrapes. And no black eyes.

    • Estefanee Villalba says:

      Specially following someone who was a minor…

      • hello111 says:

        Well, his black neighbor who *knew* Zimmerman told a reporter (but asked not to be identified due to backlash from her own minority) told a reporter “Let’s talk about the elephant in the room. George noticed Trayvon because back young men were burglarizing our houses.”

        But I’m sure the police reports supplied to the neighbors had nothing to do with it. It didn’t enter his mind.

        Minors are often criminals. But because of what you just said, I vow never to be suspicious of a minor. Anyone under the age of 18 is always innocent.

        • Estefanee Villalba says:

          Yes, I understand that only because one is a minor does not mean they will not be committing criminal acts. Z at no point had said that he saw Travon doing something illegal, he said that he looked suspicious! The question is why he looked suspicious? Was it because he was black and he was being stereotype by Z… Of course it was, did you hear how he refereed to him?

    • blueturtles says:

      A man with a history of abusing women and children, with an arrest for assaulting a police officer, on psychotropic drugs, should never, ever, ever follow teens in the dark with a loaded gun in his pocket.

      That just doesn’t make any sense at all. If he followed MY teen, I’d consider that alone to be a serious threat.

      • Karen McHale says:

        Yeah, because this case was deemed “not racially motivated”, the prosecution could not introduce the incredibly racist and misogynistic postings on his MySpace page. Or the fact that he beat his former fiancee and that he had been fired from a bouncer job for being too rough. This supposed cream puff apparently had quite the temper and liked being in charge.

        • hello111 says:

          I would talk about M’s past but it would seem petty. He had no temper at all and no brushes with the law. He was a perfect young man.

          • Karen McHale says:

            Need I remind you that TM was NOT the one on trial. He was the victim. And, frankly, nothing the kid did prior to that night had anything to do with him walking home from a store. But, GZ’s prior bad acts (being a bully, calling 911 numerously on black kids, hitting his girl friend. his words on his MySpace, etc.) goes to the defendant’s state of mind. He got out of his car and, according to the testimony of Rachel Jeantel, he instigated the confrontation.

      • Karen McHale says:

        Yeah, because this case was deemed “not racially motivated”, the prosecution could not introduce the incredibly racist and misogynistic postings on his MySpace page. Or the fact that he beat his former fiancee and that he had been fired from a bouncer job for being too rough. This supposed cream puff apparently had quite the temper and liked being in charge.

    • Karen McHale says:

      Actually, they were included in the jury instruction, which they should never have been. And the wounds were not the most important facts of the case. They were superficial. He didn’t even need a band-aid, according to the medical examiner. And I do find it interesting that the one witness, a neighbor, used “MMA” terminology. Especially in light that GZ was taking MMA training for eighteen months, three times a week.

  76. babysoft says:

    Thank you for this well-written explanation of what took place in this tragedy. As a person who has actively has worked in defense (public defender work) for over a quarter century, I deplore our countries incarceration and prison system. What I hope we all can strive for is ‘public safety.’ What happened here takes us further from public safety and creates glory for vigilante injustice and lynch mob mentality. I’m shocked at how many people who are in denial at what happened here, but encouraged by many law enforcement and prosecutors who are willing to speak out about what a miscarriage of justice this was. The defense attorneys did their job. They are obligated to do the best job possible representing their client. The prosecutors really fell down here – I can only hope it wasn’t intentional on the judge and prosecutors part. That would be giving them an extreme benefit of the doubt.

    • hello111 says:

      It’s well written, but his description of the body clutching a bag is factually wrong based on the hours of testimony in describing the body. The whole premise of the article is based on this false fact.

      • Glenna Jones-Kachtik says:

        So, did you SEE the photo. Remember the hours of testimony describing the body used GZ story as a basis. Did you see a bush? Did you see pavement??? This was a crime scene photo – the body hadn’t been moved. The bag in his hand, the phone close to his head?

  77. So why is it Tom Hall that you believe in our legal system? Right now black people are being arrested for protesting this result. Arrest was immediate, justice will be swift, and punishment will be harsh. What is it that causes you to believe that this is working?

    • Tom Hall says:

      Bee NG, A fair question. If you look at my bio, I work in Family Law. I see people at their most emotional and least rational. And I watch, over and over, as they get their lives sorted out and back on track.

      I lived and worked through the Civil Rights and Anti-War movements of the ’60s and ’70s. I watched as a totally corrupt, dishonest and racist (remember the “Southern Strategy”) president was humbled and brought down by people who worked in the law.

      And I see in the news, everyday, that our nation, with all of its flaws, routinely treats its criminal defendants and civil litigants better and more fairly than most other nations. We are not perfect. But we have a system which has worked, and has improved steadily, f or more than two centuries.

      YES, we have has some backward steps. And YES, we now have five overt, express re-segregationists on our supreme court. But we will overcome even that.

      I expec that most of those arrested during recent demonstrations will be released. But the murder of a black child in Florida is NOT justification or excuse for trashing a 7-11, looting any store or for attacking TV reporters covering the demonstrations, even the reporters from Faux Noise.
      I believe in our system. I do not believe that it is perfect, but that it is pretty good, and better than many others. I don’t want to throw out the baby with the bath water, as so many Tea Bag Republicans seem to want to do with the entire government.

      • Spoken like a true believer. I feel for you, because I would love to share in your belief, and I am afraid that inevitably you will be bitterly disappointed.

      • babysoft says:

        I so hope you are right! Your confidence brings me comfort in this dark hour, at least.

      • Tom, I’m not a “tea bag republican”, just because I oppose the racial activism currently in motion.

        As an writer to throw around a term like that in the comment section of his OWN ARTICLE really shows what level you are at – it’s high school level behaviour.

        Amazing.

  78. Thank you Tom ;

    As a White man who lives in the L.A. Ghetto , I’m rather ashamed of not only the bullcrap verdict but also of the clearly racist replies posted here by cowardly teabagger dolts who are afraid to admit their racist views , much less sign their names .

    -Nate

    • blueturtles says:

      Oh, Nate. You should check out the CNN discussions. I am ashamed, too, of the racism so rampant in our country.

      • FWIW ;

        I was born & raised in New England and lived in the rural areas in the 1960′s where there weren’t many Black Folk but there sure were lots and lots of ignorant white trash .

        They were incredibly nasty and filthy , where I live now it may be all Black (except me) but it’s a pleasant Middle Class American dream here ~ neatly trimmed lawns and children playing in the streets .

        No rusted out cars up on blocks etc.

        Not all the Black Folks who see me are pleasant but 99 % are , unlike the white trash peckerwoods who killed Trayvon then rewarded his killer and are now as you read this bragging about ‘ one less uppity N—r ‘ to worry about .

        racisim is alive and well in Sunny California believe it .

        Not on my watch it isn’t .

        -Nate

        • Karen McHale says:

          You are obviously not in the OC, my friend. ;-) Thankfully, I still live in LA County but just barely. The two counties are like night and day.

          • You’re not kidding ! .

            I live in Northwest Pasadena where the Cops occasionlly shoot a black kid just because (the last time the Cop was still sitting in his Patrol Car) , my GF & our Foster Boys are in South Central L.A. ~ a very nice place for the most part .
            -Nate

          • horriblekitty says:

            LA all the way! You can feel the vibe change when you drive over the county line!

        • Godzilla11 says:

          So a Peruvian Latino is “White Trash Peckerwoods”? Wow, tone down the rampant racism here. You realize you’re the problem, right? Idiots come in all colors, genders, shapes, sizes, races, unfortunately.

  79. As I see from the 3 responses below mine, Zimmerman’s actions will be defended by white gun toters till the end of time. Because Stand Your Ground means a Get Out Of Jail Card the next time a Florida white man wants to pull the trigger and kill an unarmed black kid or man. And what can be better than that, eh?

    Of course the Stand Your Ground law applies ONLY to white men. A black woman, on the other hand –in the same state– DOES NOT GET TO Stand Her Ground. No, she gets 20 years for shooting HER gun IN THE AIR, not even wounding her abusive husband. Because after only 12 minutes, the jury decided that a black woman has absolutely no right to stand her ground. The only right she has is to take any beating her husband wants to give her, and keep her mouth shut.

    I am curious: Is there a season when its illegal to shoot kids carrying Skittles, or is it open season year round? I’m sure some mothers may want to know that.

    • I don’t own a gun. Another wild, radical liberal assumption designed to paint fiction over reality.

      • No gun! What IS this country coming to if a red-blooded tea bagger doesn’t own a gun. I am shocked. Your patriotic friends must be hiding their faces. don’t be surprised if they do an Intervention.

        PS I didn’t know pigs flew…. You look good though.

    • Michael Hale says:

      There are plenty of African Americans who have successfully used the stand your ground law – from http://www.tampabay.com/stand-your-ground-law/fatal-cases it appears to be about 33% of the total cases

    • .45StayAlive says:

      First off, the Stand Your Ground law didn’t even apply here, nor was it used in the Zimmerman case.

      And, the Stand Your Ground law has been used successfully more by blacks in Florida than whites proportionally. But don’t let facts cloud your emotional rants.

      • Freeman Cooper says:

        Actually, Stand Your Ground WAS applied in the case, as it affected/influenced the instructions the jury was given. Plus, according to recent news, SYG has actually gone terribly WRONG in Florida, as it’s allowing drug dealers & other dangerous people & lawbreakers to get away with crimes. So, it would appear that you are letting everything except for facts cloud your judgment. So, Florida, in the style of “The Alaska Quitter” Sarah Palin, how’s that law workin’ for ya?

        • Swag_4_Life says:

          Links to SYG sources that even remotely support what you’re saying?

          • Back at ya how about links to what 45stayalive said first huh moron. OH try to read a paper they said it countless times SYG was used in this case. Jeeze you’re going to challenge someone else how about not being an idiot your self. Novel idea huh?

        • Yes, dangerous lawbreakers and losers like George Zimmerman, huh?

      • Glenna Jones-Kachtik says:

        First off – LOOK AT THE PHOTO. Explain the discrepancies between George’s statements & the photo…1)no bushes for Trayvon to have jumped out of…2) no cement, no sidewalk & 3) body with no clear bruises, with bag clutched in hand, on his back & no blood on his hands.
        If he had actually hit GZ that many times, wouldn’t there have been SOME EVIDENCE of it?

        • Maliengus says:

          And look at the knees of his pants… supposedly he straddled Zimmerman
          with his knees on ground and used the strength of the muscles in his abdomen and
          arms to deliver a “brutal ground and pound.” What would your knees be doing
          while you’re using abdomen and arms in such an agressive manner? Digging into
          the wet, muddy grass. Wow… where are the mud and grass stains? His pants are
          pristine, and so are his white shoes. The prosecution did a sh*tty job…
          deliberately?

          • Swag_4_Life says:

            It won’t let me post pics or links here without mods, but highlight and google ” Talkleft discusses photograph of Trayvon’s pants with what appears to be grass stains on the knees ” from the Democratic Underground’s website and you can see the grass stains. A flash was used in the photo in this article, so it is difficult to see much of anything in detail.

          • Swag_4_Life says:

            It won’t let me post pics or links here without mods, but highlight and google ” Talkleft discusses photograph of Trayvon’s pants with what appears to be grass stains on the knees ” from the Democratic Underground’s website and you can see the grass stains. A flash was used in the photo in this article, so it is difficult to see much of anything in detail.

          • Swag_4_Life says:

            It won’t let me post pics or links here without mods, but highlight and google ” Talkleft discusses photograph of Trayvon’s pants with what appears to be grass stains on the knees ” from the Democratic Underground’s website and you can see the grass stains. A flash was used in the photo in this article, so it is difficult to see much of anything in detail.

        • Godzilla11 says:

          Watch the video where Zimmerman takes them on a walk around. You’ll see where the concrete and everything explained is. And he never said anything about “bushes”. Do you people make this stuff up to feed your biased theories? I’m not “pro ZImmerman” nor “pro Trayvon”, I wasn’t there like everybody else, though at least I admit it unlike everybody else who apparently believes they had a front row seat.

          • genovelle says:

            If you read his police statements he did say he jumped out of the bushes and sucker punched him, then later changed the story because it made no sense.

        • Elder Berry says:

          Zimmerman outweighed Trayvon, he was an adult, he had a year of MMA instruction. Yet if they grappled and tussled for any extended time, why is there not a mark on Trayvon, not on his face or hands. In reviewing the evidence, the most likely thing I can see is that right off Zimmerman fell, or was pushed down, and he immediately pulled the gun if it was not already out. Trayvon may have gone down to try to grab the gun but was shot. Zimmerman’s nose could well be from the gun recoil. However, because we are speculating, given SYG, that creates reasonable doubt. SYG removed the possibility that Zimmerman leaving his car and following Trayvon made Zimmerman the aggressor and therefore denied his self-defense claim. Bad law. Bad.

      • babysoft says:

        Actually, I just learned that ‘stand your ground’ was read in the jury instructions to the jury to explain the law to them – so yes, it did come into this case, though not part of the original charges.

      • M. Tiger says:

        This is absolutely a lie and I know that you cannot prove this. This is because I recently reached out to a couple of lawyer friends in Florida and asked them to give me the statistics of SYG cases. The number of cases where SYG worked, on behalf of a black defendant, was sadly only due to “gang-bangers” who used the law to protect themselves over other gang members.

        There were NO cases where a black defendant ever won against an opposing white offender. (Which is really the comparison people are looking for). But nearly all the cases in Florida, where SYG was applied, and where it was a white defendant versus a black offender, that white defendant won.

        Please do the research before saying something to obviously erroneous and misleading.

      • Christopher C says:

        I live in Tampa,and that is A bold faced lie.The law has been applied 87 times according to the FlorIda department of justice.19 black,15 Hispanic and 53 times by a white person.FACT

      • MartinIsNOTonTrial says:

        If you took the time to read the jury instructions you would see that the law was clearly referred there…

    • blueturtles says:

      Martaz, in Texas a man killed a prostitute who changed her mind, and got away with it, the idea being that he had paid, so she owed it to him.

      Women gain equality last – black men got the vote first, and the office of the Presidency first. We will get there – but it will take time. :/

      • true

      • CORRECTION!! In Texas she was NOT a prostitute, she worked for an escort service and provided a service a LEGAL escort service does which is ESCORT someone to some event.

        Now because this CAN be a sneaky way of getting sex it’s much like the (wink wink) massage parlors sometimes escort MEANS escort and in this case it was just that. HE asked for sex SHE refused so under Texas law you can use up to deadly force if needed to recover your property. So under that vague law he was found not guilty.

        On a side note what does a person own that warrants deadly force outside of defending your family from harm? I mean REALLY you buy a G.D. big screen TV and see the person stealing it and it’s worth taking a life SERIOUSLY. No one wants to lose something they worked hard for I get that but still possibly KILLING SOMEONE over a fricken T.V.? If you could say yes to this then you are one pathetic person and need to be locked up.

        • blueturtles says:

          I completely agree. Deadly force to protect property is disgusting. Thanks for the correction about that poor woman. Prositute, escort, waitress, or doctor — no matter what she did for a living, it totally, completely sucks that he killed her and got away with it.

          • Christopher C says:

            Hillary will be president in 2016……relax

          • ovrkil105 says:

            How so? She took, basically stole, his money and refused the him the service he paid for. She deserved everything that came her way after that. If you steal from someone, you forfeit every right to your own life.

        • Christopher C says:

          ssY IS 100% CORRECT.tAKE MY T.V.,i WILL NOT KILL anyone,UNLESS THEY ARE SERIOUSLY TRYING TO KILL ME,AND THEN I WOULD TRY AND STOP THEM FIRST….Last resort.

        • MartinIsNOTonTrial says:

          The things is, that most states have laws that will lock you up if you just shoot someone. But if you shoot and kill, its different: you claim self-defense, property recovery, whatever, the witness is dead, you walk…

          Its disturbing on so many levels…

    • FYI Zimmerman isnt white, but nice try stirring up the race aspect

      • Freeman Cooper says:

        But, he’s more white that Trayvon. So, if anything, it’s YOU who’s trying to stir up the race aspect by making it look like it wasn’t about race.

        • Swag_4_Life says:

          So if Zimmerman is a white hispanic, is the president a White African American?

          • No! He’s all American!

          • Possibly if he had taken more of a white look but with a black father then yes but seeing as he’ umm kinda a little black looking then NO.

            Who do you think stands a better chance of not being profiled, a WHITE looking Hispanic or a BLACK looking half white person?

          • genovelle says:

            I know quite a few white/hispanic people who are considered and consider themselves white. Just like when an asian person mates with a white person their child is accepted as white. Black and any other race you consider them to be black. The only similarity would be someone from mexico, but it is still not even close.

        • Godzilla11 says:

          Freeman, your own “racism” is seeping through here. This is a Latino/Black issue. Anyone with an agenda large enough to make it a White/Black issue is by definition the racists.

          • horriblekitty says:

            This is not a Latino/Black issue at all. Zimmerman has a white perspective, and at the end of the day, experienced white privilege. He didn’t identify as Latino, until it benefitted him. He was noted for hating other Latinos, specifically Mexicans, via his old Myspace profile. And I guess you haven’t noticed the distinct lack of support for Zimmerman from other Latinos? Most latinos identify far more with the victim, than the perpetrator. Martin has been a Martinez in other situations, that unfortunately didn’t get the same amount of media coverage.

            Had Zimmerman been darker, and be named Lopez instead, you would be bitching about ‘illegals’ and immigration, instead of playing the ethnicity card for Zimmerman (which he doesn’t need your help with, he did a fabulous job of that himself).

      • Glenna Jones-Kachtik says:

        He is pretty damn white. Look, my brother in law comes from a family where his mother is Hispanic & his father was German. The kids have all different colorings – the males took after their Dad & are what my hubby calls “clear” – the girls are more Hispanic looking. The spouses are a mixture of Hispanic & Anglo. My BIL kids are all Anglo looking – not one looks Hispanic & they wouldn’t even be called so with their last name. Zimmerman, despite his Mom being Peruvian, doesn’t & won’t be considered Hispanic…Peru isn’t considered a Hispanic culture but Portuguese. Besides, Hispanics can be very racist toward blacks & even other Hispanics so your argument doesn’t hold water at all.

        • Swag_4_Life says:

          Take one look at the president of the NAACP, he is ten shades lighter than Zimmerman. Seriously! Please! Mr. Jealous (yes, that’s his real name) is an African American with a white father and a black mother and we don’t go around doubting his ethnicity…do we?

        • tru fax says:

          Uhh, Peru is very much a “Hispanic” culture — are you thinking of Brazil? Because Peru’s predominant language is Spanish, with the indigenous language Quechua coming in second.

      • Stirring things up??? I don’t think he is doing that. I believe that Zimmerman did all that when he decided to hunt that young man down and kill him for defending himself..

        • Trayvon was defending himself? From what? There is 0 evidence supporting anyone hit trayvon with anything other than a bullet AFTER trayvon assaulted zimmerman. Yes, he was following trayvon, but that isnt a crime. Assault is.

          • There is so many children now days getting kipnapped, raped, and killed. Dang right Trayvon was defending himself. It’s dark, late, and a strange GROWN man following a boy…..please. No one was there but TM and GZ. And the only person standing to tell the story is GZ.

          • Drew you are an insensitive asshole and an idiot. If it had been a white girl being followed by a man with a gun you would welcome her defending herself, right. I’m sure if it were a full white 17 year old boy you would defend him over the half white Zimmerman… but is is Trayvon, the black kid who had a bag of skittles and iced tea in his hand that Zimmerman followed yet he deserved to be killed. You are a disgusting piece of racist shit and I hope you meet the same fate as Zimmerman and his attorneys will meet soon.

          • REALLY so Trayvon assaulted Zimmerman? Says who ZIMMERMAN? Being followed CAN be if you feel threatened. What happened to Trayvons right to STAND HIS GROUND? Guess it only applies if you aren’t black right?

        • Trayvon was defending himself? From what? There is 0 evidence supporting anyone hit trayvon with anything other than a bullet AFTER trayvon assaulted zimmerman. Yes, he was following trayvon, but that isnt a crime. Assault is.

      • You missed the point. His ancestors were not enslaved and then subject to terrorism for the next hundred and fifty years.

      • SO lets say he was Hispanic (which he’s not) so it’s only racist if its white on black. Racism is NOT defined as white against black genius. Nice try ignoring the race aspect.

      • Brian Luscher says:

        My late wife was HIspanic, but she repeatedly reminded me that ethinicity and race are different and that she was Caucasian racially — White.

      • genovelle says:

        Remember even census counts hispanics as being white since you have to list caucasians as non hispanic white.

    • Swag_4_Life says:

      It took a jury 12 minutes to convict her, based upon the testimony of her children. They were afraid she was going to kill them. The dude had a bloody eye, she was uninjured. They had offered her three years, she refused. In the middle of a domestic dispute, she left the garage and went out to her truck and got a pistol which she fired indiscriminately in the direction of the man and the children. The bullet ricocheted and ended up in the ceiling. Now since she had a chance to leave the situation and go get the pistol and then come back to fire it at them, she was not “standing her ground” nor can she plead self defense because she was the aggressor. It’s sad that people put their kids through that, in fact I’m ashamed that more people aren’t discussing that aspect of the case. But it’s custom made for the race pimps, which is why Jackson/Sharpton are all over it stirring the pot to line their coffers. This is just more distraction

      I believe that both parents ought to be punished and held accountable. Couples who get into these self-absorbed, obsessed , “Fatal Attraction” types of relationships have no idea of the damage that they do, and most often don’t even care. The children are just used as pawns and blocking dummies and forced to witness horrible violence from both parents. I just don’t hear much mention of the kids in this, instead people are so caught up in the racial media circus.

      • Petra van Goor says:

        How was she supposed to escape from a garage that was locked?

        • You can’t shoot based on verbal threats, when someone has retreated, or when there isn’t an immediate gear of bodily harm or death. This is why she was convicted.

          There are major differences. A similar case is the Scott case from 2009 where a 42 year old black man killed a 17 year old white teenager. The black man shot twice before the teen ever put a hand on him.

          He was also found not guilty, but the story never got the same media attention. Wonder why?

          As far as the article above. It is full of emotional pleas, lies and ignorance of the law. Congrats to the writer for dividing races even more. You are part of the problem, not the solution. This verdict allows white men to hunt and shoot black boys, yeah, you are completely ignorant of the law and facts, and are a big part of the racial divide in America.

          • Petra van Goor says:

            So she was supposed to wait for him in the garage like a sitting duck? Ignoring something will not make it go away. The racial divide is real. Whit privilege is alive and kicking.

      • Christopher J Hoffman says:

        You mustn’t confuse people with facts.

    • Chuck Thom says:

      One third of Stand Your Ground cases in Florida are filed by black individuals, with a 69% success rate. Two thirds of cases are filed by white individuals with a 62% success rate. Get educated.

    • Chuck Thom says:

      That woman you’re talking about violated a restraining order, went to her ex’s house, went outside to get a gun from her glovebox and went back inside with it, firing a round into the wall between her ex and his kids. Four months later, she went to his house again and physically attacked him, which she also admitted. Again, educate yourself.

    • Martaz… please read regarding the young woman you were referring about..I’m writing a movie and this is what I found doing my research so I just wanted to share with youhttp://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/07/19/marissa-alexander-florida-10-20-life-laws

    • The Stand Your Ground law in Florida didn’t apply to this case. It was never invoked by the defense. It only applies if you are able to retreat when faced with a deadly threat but do not, and in this case George Zimmerman was not able to retreat because he was already pinned to the ground.

      The Stand Your Ground law didn’t apply to that black woman you mentioned, either. Look up the articles written about it. She did not face a deadly threat. She WAS the deadly threat. She left a house that her ex was in – thus removing herself from any possible threat. She then armed herself, re-entered the house and started firing. The Stand Your Ground law didn’t apply in this case because the woman was not in fact facing a deadly threat which she could only repel by deadly force – she approached people who were not threatening her and then started shooting.

  80. WITHOUT PREJUDICE

    “So there was no evidence to support his claims that Trayvon Martin attacked him. No evidence that Trayvon Martin grasped his head and slammed it into the ground. There was no evidence that Trayvon Martin grappled for George’s gun.”

    ” shot him before Trayvon Martin even had a chance to drop his skittles and Arizona Tea…”

    John, I am curious how you – and the angry mobs have come to these definitive conclusions…

    The mob is convinced that Zimmerman is lying, which looks like a case of group-think to me, and the mob is just as susceptible to blind prejudice as every other character in this sad event.

    Regardless of mob opinions and theories, in American law every man/woman should be innocent until proven guilty, and entitled to a jury trial.

    It sounds like mob group-think is challenging both those ideas because, as much as Justice for Trayvon would not care to admit it, this has morphed into a political – and now a partisan issue more than it has to do with “justice”.

    It’s a greasy downhill slide from there…

  81. harry Wood says:

    How was Martin able to sit on Zimmerman and hit him with his fist while holding a bag of candy? As a retired federal agent, I can tell you that your story is full of holes in several directions. It looks like you have done looked for the facts as you already knew them. I have not heard any of the Martin supporters tell us that Zimmerman was using his time to givie extra educational support to young black children. This fact has to be left out of the telling so the race card can be used. Both of these young men could have done a better job and avoided this awful circumstance.

    • Here’s a sour question that most people won’t like: Why has this story become a “race story”? Because thanks to a few high level political interjectors, and NBC, MSNBC, who got on this talking point early last April, the mob has decided it’s about racial profiling – and now the race mobs are out.

      Why did everyone use the 14 yr old “child” picture of Trayvon Martin as their campaign marketing tool, instead of depicting him as his true self – a fully grown 6’2″ young man? Why? Answer: it was political.

      Race, race, race. America does not need, or want a race war – especially one based on a mob’s politically correct consensus and a very disengeniuos premise. If this continues to get ugly, it will not benefit the black community – in fact, it will have the reverse effect.

      • Get your facts straight. Trayvon Martin was 5′ 11″ and the picture of him in the red t-shirt was taken in August 2011, six months before he died.

        • Karen McHale says:

          Exactly. Look at the crime scene pic and you can see that he was a kid with a baby face. He wasn’t a big, scary guy. He looks like a skinny, average looking kid. He looked like my nephew, except my nephew is white.

      • Karen McHale says:

        Oh, for fuck’s sake……he was 5’11″, 158lbs, medium build, according to the AUTOPSY REPORT. GZ was 5’8″, 200lbs, according to the INCIDENT REPORT. Quit making TM out to be a hulking guy. He was an average seventeen-year-old.

        • I see, we are now arguing, and you’re swearing – over 3 inches.

          I see. I get it now.

          • Freeman Cooper says:

            Well, Patrick, when dealing with the truth-handicapped (read “right-winger”), sometimes, people’s tempers get the best of them. Karen was simply correcting the right’s lie that Trayvon was some hulking person. The fact is, it shouldn’t have been a surprise that Zimmerman was found “not guilty”. The South has a history of deep & powerful racism towards blacks. Emmett Till is a good example of that.

            • hello111 says:

              It’s not really the “right’s” lie. I know several progressive liberals and blacks who — this is important — *watched every minute of the trial* and agree with the verdict.

              But everyone should just take this blogger’s word for it — who is reporting crime scene evidence that MSBNC, CNN, the New York Times etc. don’t even know about.

              Shocker.

              This is really sad.

      • Austerity Sucks says:

        When the system is racist, only racists are complaining about not wanting a race war.

    • Tom Hall says:

      Harry, How was Martin able to sit on Zimmerman and hit him without leaving any DNA evidence, or getting any bruises on his “fists”? How was Martin able to hit on Zimmerman while holding a paper bag without getting DNA or blood on the bag or even wrinkling the bag?

      How is Zimmerman’s pretense about helping children relevant to his going out and stalking a child whom he WANTED to believe was a black hoodlum?

      Why was it not put before the jury that Zimmerman was hopped up on Adderal and Temazipam on the night of the murder? Just like the DNA evidence, we know the answer to this question – the Sanford police had a killer in their custody, but decided to NOT do any drug screen on him. So even though his doctor later confirmed that he was hopped up, the rules of evidence kept that evidence out, because there was no test on the night of the murder.
      Tom Hall

      • Glenna Jones-Kachtik says:

        I know that Adderall is used for ADD but what is the Temazipam for???

        • Suzanne Longo says:

          It’s a sleep medication. Adderall might make him “jacked up” but the Temazipam would work against the Adderall. It is a somewhat strong medication should be used before you go to bed. Zimmerman should not have been driving around if he took that. Maybe that’s the reason he looked like he was falling asleep in the courtroom.

      • Swag_4_Life says:

        I have personally punched my fist through two sheets of sheet rock and nails without a scratch. If you know how to fight, and form a proper fist, you won’t get bruises.

        I WILL, however, concede to you the lack of a drug screening here. That was simply bad police work, IMO I assumed that it was standard procedure. I am, though, convinced that the Sanford PD investigated this matter sufficiently. If the lack of drug screening were credible and something that would have helped their extremely weak case, you can bet that the state would have used it.

        I’m keenly interested in your explanation of how a plastic bag transformed into a paper bag. Go back and look at the 711 surveillance video. In my opinion, it really just looks like a reflection in the camera.

    • retired federal agent…. Kind alike Zimmerman was a cop, right?

    • walt kovacs says:

      according to his brother, zimmerman was mentoring 2 black kids

      outside of his brother, there is no evidence of this
      it was never brought into the trial…therefore, it has no bearing on the case

    • babysoft says:

      Trayvon was not here to speak or dispute Zimmerman’s version of what happened. Much of what happens in a trial, is decided prior to the trial beginning by motions won and lost keeping out evidence or what can be said. Unfortunately, I think Trayvon was put on trial here, not Zimmerman. Great defense strategy (as a defense person) but probably didn’t get us the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Trayvon died (truly received the death penalty) for being a young well built black man, which is for some reason always a threat to men in this country. No matter his height and build, he was still a child!

      • No, Trayvon died because he assaulted a man by breaking his nose and pounding his head into the sidewalk and repeatedly punching him MMA style. Then saying “You’re going to die tonight mother fucker”

        • Karen McHale says:

          According to GZ and his family, The. “You’re gonna die tonight” was first uttered by GZ’s father in an interview.

        • You’re lying . not surprising as cowards almost always lie when they’re scared .

          -Nate

          • Freeman Cooper says:

            No, Nate. The one who was lying was Zimmerman. But, then again, you are correct on something, as Zimmerman DID lie because he was scared, scared that if he didn’t do something to cover his behind, he’d end up in jail on charges of murder.

        • That is Georges story that he is sticking to.. As we all know that George was following him and I know that if a man was following me I would of did the same thing.

    • Karen McHale says:

      Wow. how did you manage to retire? Or were you just another brainless narco? Do you always take a suspect’s word as evidence? Because there was no direct evidence to show his that his version of evidence.

      • Estefanee Villalba says:

        Thank you Karen…. But ignorant like Patrick H. will always hide behind stupid facts, made up by them most of the time, to excuse their racist comments and behaviors.

        • .45StayAlive says:

          I am a white guy, middle aged, etc. So you’d include me in that judgement? You think I have to be racist, simply because like Patrick, I stand by the facts of the case?

          In the 1980′s I worked at a small company where I found out that the owner threw out a prospective employee’s resume because he was (in the words of that owner), “a Schwartzer”. You know what I did? I was disgusted, so I left that company, and formed my own competing company and drove that racist jerk’s company out of business. And recently I rented out my condo to a black couple. They were the first people to apply to rent the place. I didn’t even bother running a credit check on them. I based my decision to rent to them on what they said, how they said it, the way they made eye contact with me, and their general demeanor. When it comes to people, I am color blind. Always have been. Always will be.

          But apparently, to you I’m racist because I believe George Zimmerman acted in self defense. Correct me if I’m wrong about this.

          • Estefanee Villalba says:

            Self defense… Really, following a teenager and inflicting a deadly wound with a fire fun is self defense… WOW, if you believe that, then you probably have no heart, no feelings, a senseless human being. I have a teenager and the one thing that I have always told him since he was little, is to run away and stay away from strangers, and also to fight as hard as he can if he ever encounters himself with a stranger who is trying to harm him… That’s what Travon did, he tried to defend himself… Yes, he ended up beating the crap out of GZ, because GZ looked for it, he followed him, even after being instructed by the police not to do… The injuries Travon inflicted on GZ “Supposedly” were not even close enough to cause such “harm” as that idiot claim…. BUT yes, it was it easy for GZ to pull the gun and defend himself, in a cowardly way…. Why he didn’t continue fighting or wait for authorities to arrive and let THEM handle it… Now, all because this punk could not take a couple of knocks from Travon, which he clearly looked for, he killed a innocent underage kid, who was not a thug like all the haters are trying to portrait him as….. He could have been my son, and this punk took his life away for no reason, no reason whatsoever! And if you claim not to be racism, great for you, but most people who think like you about this case are racists, but yet many are not willing to accept it.

          • blueturtles says:

            I am not convinced that Zimmerman profiled Trayvon based on his skin color. But I do believe he profiled Trayvon because of his age.

            I also believe a man with a history of sexual and physical assault on women and children, who has been arrested for assaulting a police officer, and who is doped up on psychtropic meds with hostility, aggression, anger, anxiety, and paranoia as known side effects should NEVER be permitted to follow teens in the dark with a loaded gun in his pocket.

            This guy should have been stopped long, long ago.

            • Karen McHale says:

              I would have like to see a tox screen on GZ. I have a feeling something interesting would have popped.

              • They did one. He was on Adderall and a diazaprine. Side effects can be awful, just as I listed. And other bad effects, too. There needs to be legislation that bars people on drugs with violence-inducing side effects from owning guns.

        • .45StayAlive says:

          I am a white guy, middle aged, etc. So you’d include me in that judgement? You think I have to be racist, simply because like Patrick, I stand by the facts of the case?

          In the 1980′s I worked at a small company where I found out that the owner threw out a prospective employee’s resume because he was (in the words of that owner), “a Schwartzer”. You know what I did? I was disgusted, so I left that company, and formed my own competing company and drove that racist jerk’s company out of business. And recently I rented out my condo to a black couple. They were the first people to apply to rent the place. I didn’t even bother running a credit check on them. I based my decision to rent to them on what they said, how they said it, the way they made eye contact with me, and their general demeanor. When it comes to people, I am color blind. Always have been. Always will be.

          But apparently, to you I’m racist because I believe George Zimmerman acted in self defense. Correct me if I’m wrong about this.

      • .45StayAlive says:

        In fact the forensic evidence of the case supports everything Zimmerman claims. And the closest eyewitness (a black man) reluctantly testified that he saw Martin on top of Zimmerman. But according to you, I suppose we should just ignore the facts and the evidence and lock Zimmerman up for life anyway. You’d have been a great judge in the Salem witch trials….

        • Karen McHale says:

          Wow, really? Another neighbor testified that it was GZ on top of TM. And Rachel Jantel testified that she heard TM ask TWICE, “Why are you following me?” And GZ demanding, “What are you doing?” And then she heard TM yell, “Get off me!” And then the phone went dead. A minute later(according to the cell records for both TM and R

          • He’s just lying , look at his cowardly handle as he’s afraid and needs a gun to pretend to be a man .

            -Nate

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