Octogenarian Who Killed Pregnant Burglar No Hero

Pregnant Burglar ShotFor the record, when I think of standing my ground, shooting someone in the back when they’re running away from me is not what comes to mind.

So when an 80-year-old Bixby Knolls resident shot an alleged pregnant woman twice in the back as she was running away and killed her, to me it was murder.

Tom Greer had no regrets when he told NBC4 Wednesday night that he shot a woman twice in the back as she was fleeing with a male accomplice after breaking into his home and attempting to rob him.

“She says, ‘Don’t shoot me, I’m pregnant — I’m going to have a baby.’ And I shot her anyway,” Greer said. “The lady didn’t run as fast as the man so I shot her in the back twice, she’s dead … but he got away. I shot her twice, she best be dead.”

Even though the woman was running away, Greer said he regards what he did as self-defense. He said he arrived at home Tuesday night to find a couple in the middle of a late-night break-in.

“When I went in there, they tackled me,” Greer told NBC4. “Both of them jumped up on top of me.”

This is not a case of self-defense or standing your ground. It’s a case of a man who was upset about being attacked and robbed in his own home and decided to dole out some vigilante justice–the lethal kind.

Let’s be clear. When you’re in a situation and you’re scared for your life, you don’t run after the perpetrator–you run in the opposite direction. As a native Angeleno I know this from experience having been in a few scary situations myself.

This is not a case of self-defense or standing your ground. It’s a case of a man who was upset about being attacked and robbed in his own home and decided to dole out some vigilante justice–the lethal kind.

If Greer had shot and killed the woman in his home during the assault, that would be a different situation, but he didn’t. Instead, this octogenarian chased after the two people who had robbed him and then with seemingly no regrets shot and killed a woman after she slipped and fell in the alley while trying to flee. If an autopsy report determines that she was pregnant, that only makes Greer’s action even more heinous as the woman told him that she was with child.

Now as would be expected with a story like this, there are those who are hailing Greer’s actions as those of a hero. But just as the suspects are no saints, Greer is no hero.

Greer’s callous disregard for human life has put him in the same category as the likes of George Zimmerman who shot and killed teen Trayvon Martin and Michael Dunn who shot and killed 17-year-old Jordan Davis after Dunn complained that Davis was playing loud music. Judge, jury and executioner.

This is a case of homicide, only it’s not justified. Greer should be arrested and charged with murder.

But this is California so he might just get away with it.

I am reminded of the 1991 fatal shooting of then 15-year-old Latasha Harlins. Liquor store owner Soon Ja Du thought Harlins was stealing a bottle of orange juice and started a physical confrontation with the teen. According to reports, Du grabbed Harlins by the sweater and snatched her backpack. Harlins then struck Du with her fist three times, knocking Du to the ground. After Harlins backed away, Du then threw a stool at her. Harlins then picked up the orange juice that dropped during the scuffle, threw it on the counter and turned to leave. Du reached under the counter to retrieve a handgun, then fired at Harlins from behind at a distance of about three feet and shot her in the back of her head, killing her instantly. Du testified on her own behalf, stating that it was self-defense and that her life was in danger. A jury found Du guilty of voluntary manslaughter, an offense that carries a maximum prison sentence of 16 years. However, trial judge, Joyce Karlin, sentenced Du to five years of probation, four hundred hours of community service, and a $500 fine. The sentence was upheld on appeal.

So getting away with murder under the guise of self-defense in California, yes, it happens.

jasmyne-cannickLong Beach police told local media that they are investigating whether Greer should face charges for Tuesday night’s shooting.

California’s constitution doesn’t have a stand-your-ground law. Instead, California law has been guided by what’s known as a “castle doctrine” (California Penal Code Section 198.5), granting a justification for deadly force inside one’s residence. It says that if someone forces his or her way into your home, and you have a “reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily injury,” then you would be justified in using deadly force to defend yourself.

California jury instructions allow a jury to acquit someone based on a stand-your-ground defense in what is called justifiable homicide:

“A defendant is not required to retreat. He or she is entitled to stand his or her ground and defend himself or herself and, if reasonably necessary, to pursue an assailant until the danger of (death/great bodily injury/) has passed. This is so even if safety could have been achieved by retreating.”

So in California, not only could you stay and fight, you can even chase your attacker if it will neutralize the threat to your life.

However, common sense would dictate that chasing down a woman and shooting her dead in the alley after she just pleaded for her life and the life of her unborn child is not neutralizing the threat to your life. No, that’s making sure that at 80, you live long enough to witness your version of justice carried out—in a body bag, on a stretcher, and headed to the morgue.

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I can only hope that the victim wasn’t African-American or Latina, because if she was, that in and of itself is going to be a game changer. With the recent high profile incidents of Whites killing Blacks and using the ‘stand your ground’ law as defense, this could California’s very own litmus test on how we deal with when self-defense turns into cold-blooded murder.

So while Tom Greer says she best be dead after being shot twice, if the police and the District Attorney’s office do their jobs, Greer best be getting ready to go to prison.

Jasmyne A. Cannick


  1. Ryder says

    I think a lot of people here are armchair quarterbacks that have watched too many movies… and have never been in the position of the victim. When you are attacked in your home… then you can talk.

    It matters not if the perp was female (a little gender bias, my enlightened friends?). It matters not if someone is pregnant. It’s just tissue, right? And can be discarded at any time a woman chooses… or did I get that wrong?

    A stranger entered his home, and physically assaulted him, intending to take his property… with no guarantees that he would be left alive.

    He has the same right of any animal that is being attacked… and that is to fight back in every way he can.

    Their right to be safe ended the moment they violated his right to be safe in his own home.

  2. J. Evert Jones says

    There are a couple of omissions in this article, items which could tilt things in Greer’s favor. One story that’s been reported is the couple had broken into Greer’s house before. Second, is that the couple had accosted Greer when he discovered them and in the encounter broke Greer’s collar bone. Third, (which may have reported after this article was written), an autopsy of Andrea Miller reveals that she was not pregnant.

    I’m not one to judge Greer for what he did, and while I’m hesitant to refer to him as a hero, he is certainly no George Zimmerman.

    Zimmerman was not accosted in his own home, in fact he stalked Trayvon Martin while calling 911 repeatedly. And when they weren’t giving the answer he wanted, Zimmerman took matters into his own hands and tracked young Martin down. Greer is not a Theodore Wafer either, the man who shot Renisha McBride through the closed front door of his home. The comparison of Greer and Zimmerman is inaccurate and incendiary. So too, is the comparison to Soon Ja Du– while Soon claimed self-defense, there was also a provocation on her part that needlessly escalated the incident (which is likely why she was convicted).

    Greer’s case is a difficult one, made more because of Miller’s false claims of pregnancy. It’s true that Greer chased the couple out of his home, Greer was injured, scared and likely pumped with adrenaline in the seconds following the aborted burglary. I say, let’s wait for a trial before assigning a label to Greer.

  3. Luis L. says

    Shooting someone in the back is not self-defense. Shooting someone with a hand gun is not an easy thing so this guy must have gotten real close to her in order to hit her twice. I think there is more to this story than meets the eye right now. My guess is that this was a case of a John being taken for a ride by a prostitute and her pimp and this old fart getting pissed.

  4. Rich Broderick says

    This case reminds me a pair of killings that took place here in Minnesota last Thanksgiving Day. Byron Smith, a man in his 60s whose house has been burglarized by two local teenagers, set up what can only be called a “people-stand” in his basement, sat in the dark with a handgun on his lap and bottled water in case he got thirsty and waited. When, in fact, the unarmed teens broke into his house again, he executed them in cold-blood, even going up to the young girl who lay fatally wounded on the basement stairs and firing point-blank into her head. The upside of this grisly story? A Little Falls jury rejected all his claims about castle doctrine, stand your ground, I feared for my life rationalizations and convicted this psycho of two counts of first-degree murder and a host of other charges. The judge, to the applause of almost everyone, sentenced Smith to life in prison. Hope this guy receives similar treatment.

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